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To: JohnM who wrote (4266)8/4/2003 3:42:49 PM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793843
 
the issue of whether the animus toward Bush is different from that toward Clinton.

Oh, yeah. Much different. Clinton had a reputation as a scoundrel before he was elected, and events afterward just confirmed that beyond everyones imagination. The initial hatred of Clinton was there just as "Business." He was a Democratic President. But the right is more concerned with Public personal morality than the left is, and they went ballistic over the continuing scandals. It became very personal.

You see this with Bush in the "Moron," etc, charges, which I considered "Business," not personal. They hate what Bush is doing, not what he is. The personal attacks are just window dressing.

The present hatred of Bush by the left is very ideological. Never, during the worst of the Clinton hatred, was the Right hoping for deaths of our Soldiers in Bosnia as a way to stop Clinton. It wasn't about issues with him. But you see that daily from the Left today as a way to stop Bush. Just read the posts from the left on FA if you don't believe me. Or any of the radical left Dem sites.



To: JohnM who wrote (4266)8/5/2003 4:48:09 AM
From: unclewest  Respond to of 793843
 
Josh Marshall tackles the issue of whether the animus toward Bush is different from that toward Clinton. An interesting argument.

John,
No argument at all. The writer politicized the issue and missed the significant key point.

Clinton is guilty of moral turpitude. It began with his treatment of the military his very first day in office. It continued with his infidelities and finger pointing falsehoods. It ended with his criminal pardons his last day in office.

Nobody talks about it now but that guilt is beginning to wash across the Democratic Party.

LB has it right. The backlash is beginning and demos are leading the way.
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