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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (4321)8/5/2003 12:05:09 PM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793687
 
Do we get Terrorists from radicalized Muslims brought up a Western environment?


School Days With a Qaeda Suspect
Long ago, NEWSWEEK correspondent Richard Wolffe went to school with Moazzam Begg. Now he's gone back to find out where Begg went bad

By Richard Wolffe
NEWSWEEK

Aug. 11 issue - He stood out from the rest of our class for being so small and frail. Sure, he could run like the wind, which kept him out of trouble. And he won friends with his bright, wide smile. Yet he was also awkward, easily teased and slightly old-fashioned. Perhaps it was his pin-striped trousers and his platform shoes. Or his dark talk about his mother's grave. But while most of us obsessed about "Starsky and Hutch" or "Star Wars," he could be deadly serious.

ONE CLOSE FRIEND recalls his staging an intense debate about religion. Islam, he said, was superior to all other faiths because it valued charity so highly. It was a remarkable comment for any 10-year-old schoolboy. But Moazzam Begg stood out for another reason. He was a Muslim boy in a Jewish school.

Muslim charity carried Begg a long way from our middle-class neighborhood in Middle England, and the school that first shaped us. Begg now sits at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where he is one of six detainees heading toward a military trial among 680 suspected foot soldiers of Al Qaeda held in Camp Delta. While some of my classmates grew up and immigrated to Israel or the United States, Begg packed up his wife and three young children in the summer before the 9/11 attacks and went to live under Taliban rule in Afghanistan. His family says he just wanted to help his impoverished fellow Muslims by opening a school there. The U.S. government believes he was a part of something far more sinister.

WHAT WENT WRONG?
Begg's journey from Hebrew lessons to what authorities say was terrorist training is as perplexing as it is extraordinary. How could the quiet, earnest son of a bank manager, a British boy educated among Jews, take such a dramatic turn toward Islamist radicalism? In Washington there is plenty of talk about fighting terrorism by transforming the Muslim world with Western values, starting with school reforms. Yet in the British Midlands, where Moazzam and I were born and raised within two blocks of one another, there was no shortage of Western values and modern schooling. It has been 24 years since I last saw Moazzam. Recently I went back home to our old neighborhood to piece together his story, and to try to answer a nagging, troubling question: what went wrong with Moazzam Begg?

For many in Britain, especially Begg's family, the simple response is to blame the United States for his incarceration. Like his defense lawyers, his family has no knowledge of the evidence against him. They claim he has been tortured during his 18 months in American captivity and say he is the innocent victim of a reckless manhunt. Yet NEWSWEEK has seen intelligence documents that say Begg has told interrogators about activities that go far beyond any charitable work in Afghanistan. According to these internal FBI reports, Guantanamo detainees told the United States about a plot to fly remote-controlled model airplanes, packed with explosives, into the White House. In particular, Begg has allegedly detailed to interrogators how terrorists could build such a plane.

My classmate's confessions have placed President George W. Bush and Prime Minister Tony Blair in an awkward position. While the two leaders stand shoulder to shoulder in the war on terror, they have parted ways over Begg and eight other Britons in Guantanamo Bay. Among Blair's ministers, there is a distinct sense of outrage that the United States--which preaches the rule of law around the world--could devise a secretive court with few avenues of appeal. Still, when Blair sat down with Bush in the White House last month, the president laid out a simple challenge. "I want to help you," Bush told Blair, according to officials who were present. "But think through the implications. If they get released and end up killing American people, that will be a problem for all of us."

'THIS IS THE HARDEST TEST'
While the world's leaders grapple with Begg's fate, his family--including his wife and children, now back in Britain--can communicate with him only through censored letters that take four months to be delivered. Handwritten on Red Cross notepaper, Begg's letters veer from the mundane to the miserable. In one note, he tells his wife he misses her cooking. By the end of last year, he feels confident enough to mock his captors. "The USA's major contribution to civilization" is peanut butter, he sneers. But his letter from May of last year is perhaps the most honest. "This is the hardest test that I have had to pass in my life, and I hope I have not caused you too much distress," he writes. "But I will pass this test by the will of Allah and your prayers."

The younger of two sons, Moazzam struggled emotionally and physically in his early years. His mother died of breast cancer when he was barely 8. If he swore on his mother's grave to his classmates, he meant it. Moazzam was so small that he received medical treatment to boost his growth. His father, Azmat, a bank manager who moved from Pakistan to England in the early '60s, was proud of his family's generations of Army service in the British Empire and wanted his son to join the Royal Marines. But Moazzam was simply too slight to carry on the tradition. His new stepmother would often cook him Western food--sausages and burgers--in an unsuccessful attempt to fatten him up.

Moazzam was not a religious child. His Islamic education consisted of occasional readings of the Qur'an with an elderly lady living near his home. "They never went to the mosque in their lives," says his stepmother, Gull. Yet when it came to their son's formal education, the Beggs decided on King David School, the only public-funded Jewish school anywhere near Birmingham. Moazzam's father believed that King David was closer to his own culture and standards. "We liked Jews," says Azmat. "Jews are our brothers. We more or less come from the same family tree."

ON LADYPOOL ROAD
We didn't know it at the time, but Moazzam was at the forefront of a deep cultural shift in our small patch of British life. If Moazzam was a quiet, isolated figure on his childhood streets--he was one of just two Muslims in my class--by the time he was an adult he found himself in an assertively South Asian ghetto. As you walk near the Beggs' home today, there are women dressed in full black burqas, men in Afghan hats and shalwar kameez, children in white crocheted skullcaps. In this part of the city, South Asians now represent more than 60 percent of the residents. In the rest of England, they make up just 4 percent. Where there was once a strip of stores selling Indian food and clothes, there are now Islamic shops selling religious books and gifts. It was here, on Ladypool Road, that Moazzam Begg opened his own bookstore--and a door to Afghanistan.

Begg had been drifting for many years. At a time when most of his classmates had already graduated, he was struggling to find a purpose. He may have felt conflicted--caught between his father's old-fashioned Britishness and the newer, more strident Asian life around him. After helping his father set up a real-estate agency and a restaurant, he enrolled for a law degree, then unexpectedly dropped out. "I don't know what possessed him, but he decided he wanted to get married," says Gull.

What might have possessed him was the brand of radical Islam being preached in the Birmingham region at the time. One militant group known as Al Muhajiroun, launched in Britain in 1996, staged conferences at universities to call for the creation of Islamic states across the world. It's unclear if Begg himself was drawn to the group, though one of its firebrands was Hassan Butt, a student at Begg's university in Wolverhampton. It may be just a coincidence, but three of Begg's fellow detainees were recruited from the nearby town of Tipton.

MEETING MRS. BEGG
Begg's store, called Maktabah al Ansaar, sold Islamic paraphernalia. It was through the bookstore that he found his wife, Sally--her brother was one of his customers. Sally is the daughter of Palestinian parents, and her father made his money in the oil business in the Gulf. She, too, was educated in a religious school far removed from radical Islam: a convent school, run by nuns. At the time they met, she had recently chosen to live in purdah, behind a full veil and a wall of silence with most men. Sally admits she was shocked when she heard her new husband speak fondly of his Jewish schooling. But then, she says, he was shocked to hear of her Roman Catholic schooling.

By 2000, Britain's M.I.5 intelligence agency began to take an interest in Begg's bookstore. Police raided his shop in an antiterrorist sweep but released him without charge. The raid helped raise his profile among local radicals. "Because of that," says Umran Javed, a spokesman for Al Muhajiroun, "he became quite popular." It might also have encouraged him to leave Britain. Moazzam looked to Afghanistan, a place where he believed he could make a difference. A year after the raid, he flew to --Iran with his wife and children before crossing into Afghanistan in July 2001. Their dream was to open a school. "You can live like millionaires over there," says Sally. "I was very scared, but he kept talking about it for many months. I thought I'd have to live in a mud hut. But I was totally surprised. I lived in a palace."

Once the war began in late 2001, Moazzam moved his wife and children out of Kabul to Logar province, more than an hour's drive south of the capital. Now there was no choice but to live in a dreaded mud hut. Moazzam worked hard to keep his wife comfortable, carpeting the floor and installing an Italian stove. But when the Northern Alliance closed in on Kabul, Moazzam disappeared as he was delivering supplies in his large truck. His wife and children slipped across the Pakistani border at the end of 2001. A month later the family was reunited in Islamabad. There Moazzam called his father, to find that he was deeply troubled. "Come back now to England," his father urged him. "Why are you getting into that much trouble, especially with your wife and children there?" Moazzam agreed but replied: "I have come here, so I should do the things which are required and come back in a while."

On the night of Jan. 31, 2002, Sally told Moazzam she was pregnant with their fourth child. A few hours later, Pakistani police burst into their four-bedroom house with Kalashnikovs to arrest her husband. They seized three cell phones, a laptop computer and about $12,000 in cash.

It would take a month before his father heard from the Red Cross that his son was in U.S. custody. His family thought his language skills might allow him to help his interrogators question other prisoners. Instead, Begg himself will now be one of the first detainees to face a military trial. FBI documents suggest that new evidence has emerged from Begg's own confessions. "You get these things by beating him and depriving him of food," Sally scoffs. "I don't believe any evidence. If they say he's a terrorist, then I'm a terrorist."

For me and my other classmates, trying to fathom what happened to our old school friend, we may never know if we really grew up with a future terrorist. What we never understood as children was how our awkward friend was, even then, struggling to find an identity he could call his own, and a place where he could feel that he belonged. Islam offered him a compass, as well as a wife, a network of friends and a source of funds. His family says Moazzam always wanted to help people. But he might just have ended up helping the wrong people.
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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (4321)8/5/2003 12:55:09 PM
From: MSI  Respond to of 793687
 
Dean's entire record in Vermont was as a conservative governor

Exactly.

Now, since governors of Vermont don't usually build foreign policy track records (apart from occasional dealings with Quebec), it's hard to prove an expedient switch - but it sure looks fishy.

How do you figure that?
That's the point of my earlier response. A lot are attempting to fit the GOP claim of "liberal" to anyone who disagrees with Bush, and it doesn't fit, causing the problems you are having.

Go ask Vermonters if they would have predicted this stance

Which stance, specifically, the disagreement with the war and Bush policy in general? I believe Vermonters agree with Dean.

Words like "pander" and "liberal" don't fit someone who has commonsense and conviction. Dean may be in that category. In any event, we'll see how he does in the upcoming massive attacks from both parties.



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (4321)8/5/2003 6:24:18 PM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793687
 
TECH CENTRAL STATION
We don't care what you find, there was no "Medieval Warm Period!" The "Litany" gets repeated over and over. Religion in the 21st century.

Hot Topic
By David Wojick 08/05/2003

A central scientific issue in the debate over the sources of changes in the Earth's climate rose to the level of a Senate hearing last week. The hearing was called in an attempt to help determine the answers to some important questions: Was 20th Century warming unusual? Could it have been natural? Was it due to human-induced greenhouse gas emissions and if so how can we know?



These seemingly simple questions mask a very complex problem that is emerging as the most important issue in the global climate change debate.



The debate -- and the hearing -- were prompted by two academic studies that have come to differing conclusions about the nature of global climate change. One study, quite recent, was led by Harvard astrophysicist Willie Soon (Soon et. al.), who regularly writes for TCS. The other, from 1998, was by University of Virginia climate statistician Michael Mann (Mann et. al.). These two studies are the key flashpoints in a larger raging debate within the field called paleoclimatology.



Paleoclimatologists study the history of the Earth's climate and climate changes by using what are called proxy records. Since no thermometers or sensitive temperature-taking equipment existed for most of human history, paleoclimatologists use proxies, like tree rings or ice cores, to determine what the historical climate record was like.



Mann et. al.



The fight is over the so-called "Medieval Warm Period" (MWP) and "Little Ice Age" (LIA). The MWP is thought to have occurred from roughly the year 800 to1300, and the LIA from 1300 to 1900. The debate turns on whether or not the Medieval Warm Period and the Little Ice Age existed and, if so, if they were global phenomena. If they were, then it's very likely that the 20th century warming may be simply the climate emerging from the Little Ice Age, a perfectly natural process -- not a human induced one.



Advocates of the man-made warming theory, such as Mann and his colleagues, are climate change skeptics -- that is, they believe the historical record says climate has been relatively stable compared to today, and that the 20th century warming is anomalous, due to human influence, and deeply troubling. Their argument is that the local periods of warming and cooling, while large, were not synchronous, so they do not represent true "climate change." In the last ten years they have developed a number of statistical techniques to support their claims.



Mann's 1998 paper was the high point in this scientific movement. Mann claimed to find no vestige of the either the Little Ice Age or the Medieval Warm Period in the paleoclimate record. His sample of that record was very small, just 10 locations. Despite that shortcoming, the Mann et. al. study was central to the 2001 Third Assessment Report of the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), when the IPCC concluded that most of the late 20th century warming was probably due to human influence. There is no overstating how influential the Mann et. al. paper has been within climate change science circles -- and in the public debate beyond.



Soon et. al.



Soon and colleagues published "Reconstructing Climatic and Environmental Changes of the Past 1000 Years: A Reappraisal" back in March in the British journal Energy and Environment. Soon et. al. reviewed about 250 paleoclimate studies and made some interesting conclusions. They found that the Medieval Warm Period and Little Ice Age were both real and global, albeit with significant regional variations. The authors concluded that "the Medieval Warm Period of 800 to 1300 A.D. and the Little Ice Age of 1300 to 1900 A.D. were worldwide phenomena not limited to the European and North American continents. While 20th century temperatures are much higher than in the Little Ice Age period, many parts of the world show the medieval warmth to be greater than that of the 20th centuries." (Emphasis added.) In other words, the warming of the 20th century is not unprecedented. There have been earlier periods of warming, taking place long before the industrial revolution and the large emissions of human-induced greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.



In addition to the Soon et. al. study, there is abundant evidence for the existence of both the Medieval Warm Period and Little Ice Age, from many parts of the world. The European Space Agency says that the MWP and LIA were global. It also says the MWP was around one degree C warmer than today.



Moreover, a recent book on the subject, "Geological Perspectives of Global Climate Change," by Gerhard et. al., says:



"That the current rate of temperature increase is not unusual, despite the human-induced addition of CO2, implies that it is not possible to detect a human imprint on earth temperatures."



Climate Debate Rages



As part of the Soon study, the researchers criticized the Mann et. al. study. The Soon group argues that Mann's statistical methods were flawed in such a way that they tended to hide variability, rather than to reveal it. The proxy records that paleoclimatologists use to recreate the climate record are termed "noisy" because the temperature signal is masked by a lot of other variables. Mann's method, according to Soon et. al., tends to amplify this noise.



Mann has his entire professional reputation riding on his study of climate history. Assessments made by none other than the United Nations rely upon his work. It was unlikely that he would fail to respond in some way to the Soon et. al. study. Indeed, that's part of the nature of good scientific exchange and debate.



After the Soon et. al. study was published, Mann, along with twelve other prominent advocates of the theory of human-induced warming, published a pointed rejoinder in the July issue of the journal EOS, setting the stage for the Senate hearing.



At the hearing, and in the pages of EOS, Mann lays great stress on the claim that the 20th century warming is "unprecedented in the last 1000 years" and that this is the consensus view in the scientific community. Indeed, this claim has often appeared in the press since the IPCC voiced it in 2001, based on Mann's paper. Mann's criticism in EOS and at the hearing prompted several misleading press accounts of the ongoing debate.



If the Medieval Warm Period and Little Ice Age, and the cycles before them, did not actually exist, then the recent warming is indeed importantly unprecedented. But their non-existence is by no means settled, as the Soon et. al. study makes abundantly clear. As the Senate testimony from Soon's colleague, David Legates of the University of Delaware, puts it, "we chose? to? determine if the proxy records themselves indeed confirm the claim of the 1990s being the warmest decade of the last millennium. That claim is not borne out by the individual proxy records." So much for scientific consensus on the 20th century being the warmest.



There is a prominent group of climate modelers and statisticians who fervently believe that the recent observed warming is human induced. They simply assert that periods such as the Medieval Warm Period didn't happen. As the EOS group puts it, "modeling and statistical studies indicate that such anomalous warmth cannot be explained by natural factors but, instead, requires significant anthropogenic (that is, 'human') influences during the 20th century." The only conclusion to draw from statements such as that is that it matters not what the proxy record says - there can be no Medieval Warm Period.



But much of the broader scientific community, especially many geologists and paleoclimatologists, do not accept this argument. They argue that just because the modelers cannot explain natural climate variability, that does not mean it does not exist. They say they can see it clearly in the data. And they have a point.



David Wojick is an independent science journalist and policy analyst. He has a Ph.D in mathematical logic and the philosophy of science. He also does research on the logic of complex issues, especially the climate change debate. He may be reached at dwojick@climatechangedebate.org.

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