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To: Stephen O who wrote (2900)	8/5/2003 3:16:10 PM
From: Lino...	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 37549

I agree with your sentiments.....what I do find extremely troubling is the way the media portrays things. For example, when gays in the church prey on little boys, the media claims they are priests and ignores the fact that they are in reality gay predators. Men that sexually abuse boys (when in a position of trust) are the worst kind of slime on the planet and glossing things over by calling it something other than what it is puts the liberal media in the same class of slime.

To: Stephen O who wrote (2900)	8/6/2003 12:03:36 AM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum	Respond to of 37549

especially if they insist that churches, mosques etc do the marriage ceremonies Whoa ! On what grounds ? I can just see folks suing the local parish church or the synagogue or mosque for not performing these ceremonies and using the charter of rights and freedoms as basis.. Separation of church and state has to cut both ways.. That would be truly interesting... I have no objection to unions being recognised by the state through civil ceremonies Agree but I don't really care what they call them. Mother Mary come to me with some words of wisdom ;o)

To: Stephen O who wrote (2900)	8/7/2003 2:29:12 AM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 37549

A poll was released today stating that 56% of Catholics were in favour of allowing gay marriages while 58% of Protestants were opposed. Surprising eh! What I didn't hear was whether it was only civil marriage. I suspect so.

To: Stephen O who wrote (2900)	8/7/2003 9:10:54 AM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum	Respond to of 37549

OTOH from the news I'm hearing this AM maybe that poll was the one that is off by more than 3% one time in twenty :o)

To: Stephen O who wrote (2900)	8/7/2003 6:35:42 PM
From: marcos	Respond to of 37549

It's what they're doing to the language that gets me, first off .... but it's also demeaning the entire institution of marriage, when a person can 'marry' their pet chicken or whatever ...... the family is the building block of all society, destroy respect for it and you won't have much left .... it is reasonable that there be equal tax treatment for equal commitment between parties, but you don't have to soil marriage to accomplish that end, you can call it 'civil union' or something .... [which reminds you of the old thing about civil servants, eh, 'they are not that civil, nor do they serve'] They wouldn't force the religions to perform 'marriage' ceremonies though, imho .... that's a much further and more extreme step, and an absolute violation of separation of church and state ..... even in the deepest of the anti-cristero actions of the Calles government in the 1930s, when you couldn't invite more than three people to your 'church' wedding because any gathering of a priest and more than six people got the property on which it was held confiscated by the federales, there was no such rule ...... of course the government didn't recognise the church wedding as legal, either, and this is still the case, if you want to be married in the eyes of the state you have to go to the registro civil .... the church reciprocates completely, doesn't consider you married in its eyes unless you have done so in a church, for this reason many people have two weddings, and the more religious among them kill a larger hog for the festivo following the church affair But hardly anybody, in fact nobody to my knowledge, marries the hog