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To: JohnM who wrote (4419)	8/6/2003 4:43:08 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793689

Your illustration assumes frames come before getting the whole story. You must believe there is only politics. No, I just believe that reporters look for stories that they know how to tell. I believe this based on my observation of the stories they do tell.

To: JohnM who wrote (4419)	8/6/2003 5:58:59 PM
From: LindyBill	Respond to of 793689

Dean's comments right after 911 makes Ashcroft sound like a Liberal on Civil Liberties. Dean's comments on civil liberties cause alarm September 14, 2001] By DAVID GRAM The Associated Press MONTPELIER - Gov. Howard Dean's call for a "re-evaluation" of some of America's civil liberties following this week's terrorist attacks was criticised Thursday by a Vermont Law School professor. "Good God," Vermont Law School Professor Michael Mello said when read the remarks Dean made at a Wednesday news conference. "It's terribly irresponsible for the leader of our state to be saying stuff like that right now." Benson Scotch, the head of the Vermont chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union, said it was simply too soon after the attacks to engage in the sort of debates Dean called for. Dean said Wednesday he believed that the attacks and their aftermath would "require a re-evaluation of the importance of some of our specific civil liberties. I think there are going to be debates about what can be said where, what can be printed where, what kind of freedom of movement people have and whether it's OK for a policeman to ask for your ID just because you're walking down the street." Dean said he had not taken a position on these questions. Asked whether he meant that specific rights described in the Bill of Rights, the first 10 amendments to the U.S. Constitution, would have to be trimmed, the governor said: "I haven't gotten that far yet. I think that's unlikely, but I frankly haven't gotten that far. Again, I think that's a debate that we will have." Mello said Thursday, "the civil liberties Dean seems to be talking about so blithely, that's exactly what makes us different from the murderers who committed these acts." "It's why they attacked us," he continued. "I think our freedom is what they find so threatening, our freedom and the power that I think results directly from that freedom." Dean's comments came the same day Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta announced new security measures, including more official scrutiny, for the nation's airports. New procedures call for an end to curbside baggage checks at airports, electronic tickets and other conveniences to which American travelers had grown accustomed. Benson D. Scotch, director of the Vermont chapter of the ACLU, said his organization would be very much involved if any of the debates Dean called for come to pass. But he said now was not the time. "We have here locally and I think it's been our experience nationally that the worst time in the world to speculate about our civil liberties is in the middle of a crisis." Scotch said people need to work through their emotions first. "I think everybody, including a governor, has a right to have a period when emotions govern to a greater extent than they will govern later." He added, "We're at a moment now of extreme tragedy and sorrow and anger. And tragedy and sorrow and anger are not good qualities to inform a debate about civil liberties." rutlandherald.nybor.com