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To: Brumar89 who wrote (110328)8/7/2003 1:08:33 AM
From: Dayuhan  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 281500
 

You spouting propaganda in behalf of NK, NVN, and China

So if I go to a place, and do business there, and talk about what I see there, and what I see and say do not conform to your prejudices, that makes me a propagandist for a foreign power?

You work from an interesting set of assumptions. You should examine them sometime.



To: Brumar89 who wrote (110328)8/7/2003 2:59:09 AM
From: GST  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Unlike you, my primary motivation is not to promote the job security of the George Bush and his administration or the ideological cabal that shape his decisions for him. You are sadly willing to put their personal and political interests ahead of the national security of the United States. First and foremost I am interested in the national security of the United States of America -- that is the distinction between us -- I am not motivated as you are by partisan politics.

North Korea is a threat to US national security. It is a real threat. It is an immediate threat. It is a terrorist threat. It is a rogue nation threat. And it is a threat that is increasingly likely to end badly, in nuclear proliferation, nuclear terror, and possibly in nuclear war in the not-too-distant future both on the Korean peninsula and in Japan. Iraq was a colossal mistake -- a country targeted for attack primarily because it appealed to the ideological bias and agenda of the neocons rather than because of any real threat that could be ascertained by sound intelligence.

As for Vietnam, there is no issue -- other than what we can learn from the experience of wasting millions of lives on a stupid war, including tens of thousands of fine young Americans who did not deserve to die in a pointless war. It is depressing to have to realize that there are sad old holdovers like you on this thread who believe that our mission in Vietnam was righteous.

Vietnam was a mistake. Invading Iraq was a mistake. Not bringing in the UN to take over Iraq is a mistake. Not dealing one way or the other with North Korea is a mistake. Not telling people the truth is a mistake. The Bush Administration is plagued by foreign policy mistakes at a time when we cannot afford to make so many of them. US foreign policy under Bush has been badly flawed. A critical assessment is far more patriotic than a politically and ideologically motivated whitewash job.