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To: bela_ghoulashi who wrote (110398)	8/7/2003 8:15:00 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

BBM, and naughty boys who try it on, stealing the other kid's lunches, punching them because they think it's fun and generally behaving as unethical, obnoxious, presumptuous prats find that opposition builds, because humans aren't chimps and we've moved on from your atavistic toughest and most vicious alpha male King takes all chimpoid thinking. Saddam tried it on and has lost [well, almost lost]. You might think that the King of the USA is now the King of the Hill and can do any damn thing he likes and that being the 200 kg gorilla he can sit anywhere he damn well pleases. There's still some truth to it. But democracy limits the King's worst megalomaniac wishes and boots the rogue out when the public shifts their opinion sufficiently. What humans have found over millennia is that governments are good and murderous shifting alliances are bad. That's why there is United Nations support from most people around the world. The USA is like the naughty boy who wants to bully the other kids and steal their lunches. You are right that biology has been based on the biggest gorilla principle, but it's changing. The USA has led many of the changes. There is an opportunity for it to lead a lot more and bigger changes, which would be good for the USA [which is a better position than most to gain from civilization]. They don't seem to have the ethical foundations or imagination to do it though. So I guess it'll be more of the same. From which the USA doesn't benefit [having Twin Tower destruction, Jihad, strategic competitors, ideological conflict and tragedies of the commons] and being held in contempt by a significant proportion of the world's population. To which the typical ignorant response is "So What? They can get stuffed". But that's what ignorant bullying schoolboys think. It's a short-sighted point of view. Mqurice

To: bela_ghoulashi who wrote (110398)	8/8/2003 2:41:35 AM
From: GST	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

<<Countries are "free" to pursue their own interests in any way they see fit, provided they have the military or economic power to make it stick. Period>> Yes, I know that is what you think. The biggest bully always wins you say. In the real world, brains beat brawn -- but you might not have the grey matter to understand that. Scratch your armpits and tell yourself that all there is in this world is the political power that grows from the barrel of a gun. It does not change the facts: Intelligence, morality and wisdom are more powerful than your fists.