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To: Chas. who wrote (110419)	8/7/2003 3:45:45 PM
From: aladin	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Chuck, The reason I posted the George Will column is to make that exact point - civility should be maintained. Acrimonious remarks towards or about politicians (who are not on this thread) may sometimes be in poor taste, but is not impolite to fellow thread members. A better tact would be to report egregious behavior by others, rather than respond in kind. Some of the more liberal correspondents on this thread bash some of the more conservative members and vice versa. We should all stop and get back to discussions. The intellectual level of the thread has deteriorated, and many of the old regulars hardly ever post. As an FYI since you have hardly seen me on this thread - I would fit into the conservative camp on FP issues. John

To: Chas. who wrote (110419)	8/7/2003 4:42:50 PM
From: SI Bob	Respond to of 281500

so its ok to denigrate the President of the USA, the office of the President of the USA, his administration, his policys, and his actions. Correct. But no name calling to the sensitive posters and their little tattle tail buddys........ Need a day to think about it? BTW, since I was covering grammar in my last post (on a different board), it's "tattle-tale". Couldn't help it. Was on a roll.

To: Chas. who wrote (110419)	8/7/2003 7:51:45 PM
From: marcos	Respond to of 281500

You got busted for typing unbecoming a poster, it seems .... the deal with this thread, is that FaultLine Ken who started it up has particularly strict ideals for what he wants to see here, and a month or so ago he was listed WIA, so now instead of testing the limits as is our nature, it becomes our duty to show a little respect for his thread regs, which are listed in the header, along with a number of highly interesting links, by the way ..... FL busted me at least three times, the last time while i was out of his jurisdiction, having quit for a period, lol, so i am not playing high and mighty thread cop here, just filling you in on how this thread is special But the thing is, besides the respect for an absent moderator, is that name-calling and one-liner jab stuff just gets so moronic, and repetitive, and boring ..... a person can always get lots of that over on the Dubya thread anyway, so not much point making more here As for talking about politicians and their foreign affairs, well that's what the thread is about, and anybody who doesn't post here is fair game ..... this was a great post from Steven here - #reply-19186290 'The corrupting influence of power is a phenomenon long known and observed on many occasions; there is no reason to suppose that Americans are immune. The extent of American power is such that in corrupted hands, it could do damage on a nearly inconceivable scale. People are worried, and they are worried for a reason. Many outside America look at the narrow, boasting, political/religious chauvinism, the open derision expressed toward nations not boasting large military forces, the contempt directed at dissenting views, and they see the first signs of such corruption. They see us turning away from the presumption that all men are created equal, and toward the presumption that power grows from the barrel of a gun. That view may not be accurate, but when you look from outside at the face we present to the world, it is by no means irrational. This whole problem is abundantly expressed in an exchange that has become common here. People declare, often, that America is the sole hope of the world, that all we do is right, and that any who oppose us are dupes of the enemy. Some poor timid moderate comes along and points out that Americans have made mistakes, that many of our actions have had unintended adverse consequences, and that the record is a lot more varied that flag-waving ideologues want to concede. The immediate and inevitable response is a condescending sneer of “Oh, yeah, blame everything on America, you whining liberal”. That sort of thing makes me want to click elsewhere.'