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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Lane3 who wrote (72056)8/7/2003 7:11:58 PM
From: The Philosopher  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
I am incredulous that anyone cannot see that amendment
is to homophobia as states rights was to segregation


Well, be incredulous to me, then, because I don't see those situations as parallel at all.

Yes, some states rights advocates were segregationsists, and wanted to maintain states rights to ensure the continuation of segregation. But states rights issues went back to the very founding of the nation, were enshrined in the Constitution, and but for Marshall, who had no problem "interpreting" the Constitution to fit his political agenda, might well have prevailed over federalism as the dominant organizing principle of the nation. To say that states rights advocates were somehow supporting segregation is, IMO, a bit like saying clockmakers support terrorism because clocks are often used in making bombs.

I'm also disappointed in you for using the inaccurate and intentionally loaded term "homophobia." That term was cooked up by the homosexual rights lobby to try to make it look as though people who didn't agree with their agenda had a mental illness, a phobia. It highlights one of the issues I have with the gay lobby, that they intentionally abuse language and truth to promote their selfish and self-centered agenda. It is rampant dishonesty, and the fact that they feel the need to use rampant dishonesty to try to push their cause makes me realize that they realize that they can't prevail on simple truth and the merits.



To: Lane3 who wrote (72056)8/8/2003 8:18:01 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
If a long and honorable tradition has some of its themes co-opted by anti-social or even violent people should those who believe in the tradition drop the themes?

Tim