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To: techguerrilla who wrote (28027)	8/8/2003 11:16:13 AM
From: lurqer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 104191

his candidacy is totally preposterous Given that I believe the current crew is willing to "go further" than CREEP in '72, I don't think it matters who the Dem candidate is. Seabiscuit ..... the book ..... Seabiscuit ..... the movie chemotherapy = Seabiscuit ..... the life JMO lurqer

To: techguerrilla who wrote (28027)	8/8/2003 11:26:22 AM
From: stockman_scott	Respond to of 104191

How dare they call Lance Armstrong an athlete _____________________________ letters@TimesRecord.Com 08/01/2003 By Bob Jorgensen, Times Record Contributor Lance Armstrong just doesn't fit the mold for an American professional-athlete role model. He doesn't wear heavy gold chains or outrageous clothes. He doesn't beat up his wife. He doesn't assault other women or consort with prostitutes. He doesn't use or sell drugs. He doesn't get involved in barroom brawls or drive while intoxicated. In fact, he's never even been arrested on suspicion of any of those things. And they call this guy an athlete? What's going on here? Armstrong is simply the greatest competitor of all time in an essentially European sport. We have nothing comparable. The Masters is a weekend of unhurried walking and swatting; the U.S. Open, a tournament of intense individual matches that seldom last more than a couple of hours each; and the much ballyhooed Indy 500 is over in less than three hours — not counting Air Force jet flyovers and Jim Nabors' rendition of "Back Home in Indiana." Le Tour de France is unquestionably the single most demanding individual sport in the world. There's no such a thing as "game called on account of rain." (France has more than its share of that in summer, for which local vintners and we are very grateful.) While American sports championships are played out in stadiums and indoor arenas, the Tour winds its way for more than 2,000 miles through an entire country as millions of French and other European fans stand in the heat and rain to line the back roads and highways that comprise the course through town and countryside, mountains and plains as they press to within touching distance of their heroes. The race takes place in part on steep mountain roads where the uphill speeds drop from 30 to around 20 mph and then back up again to a terrifying 60 mph on the long downhills amid fog, rain, mist and thin mountain air. Nearly 200 riders battle for 15 days. Yet, on the last day, the lead is measured in mere seconds! American sports spectaculars — particularly the team sports — are designed so promoters and owners can make millions in gate receipts and the sale of TV time. In a sport like cycling, where there are no gate receipts, a few manufacturers of equipment and apparel do get exposure that will translate into sales; but it's nothing compared to the sponsored hype and hoopla of an American Super Bowl. To be a contender in international cycling competition demands a level of physical condition, endurance, determination and raw courage not found in any other sport. In the case of Jack (oops) Lance Armstrong, The All-American Boy, there is the added dimension of his having battled successfully against the ravages of testicular cancer just five years ago to rise to the pinnacle of the world's greatest living athlete with his fifth consecutive winning of the Tour — something only four other, healthier men have accomplished. When Armstrong was felled by a child's handbag that snagged his handlebar, he got up and put on one of the great all-time efforts in the history of sports to win the stage. According to the ethics of the sport, the other leaders did not exploit the mishap. Another gutsy American, Tyler Hamilton, managed fourth overall despite sustaining multiple fractures of the collar bone in an early crash. I wish sports like cycling, that demand character as well as athletic prowess, were more popular in this country so that we might have sports heroes for a change who are modest, well-behaved and worthy of our respect off the field as well as on — men and women who inspire young people to live clean and work hard and whom we would not mind our children having as their role models. ____________________________________ Bob Jorgensen is a regular columnist for The Times Record, an author and radio talk show host. He can be heard on Bowdoin College radio station WBOR 91.1 FM. timesrecord.com

To: techguerrilla who wrote (28027)	8/8/2003 11:52:18 AM
From: elpolvo	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 104191

whining dude- sounds like you're feeling better... GOOD! my take on bush... ...is that his candidacy is totally preposterous ...rolling downhill like a snowball headed for hell ...even his mother is ashamed what is it in this performance record that makes him re-electable? wage-slave.org I like Dean. Don't get me wrong. But my vote barely means dog. GOOD! find a voting buddy and double yer power. i've already found nine. while yer at it, send $25 to the campaign fund. fed funds will match everything you give, up to $250. (another way to double yer power) this is the way representative democracy works. you gotta VOTE and you gotta get yer friends to VOTE. sorry you don't like the candidate field... we aren't going to attract anything but fools, ego maniacs and crooks at a salary of $400,000 a year. enhance that salary with bonuses based on economic performance and you might get a better list to choose from. in 2000 we thought we were choosing between two fools so the motivation to vote wasn't so strong. (we were fooled by a crook - shame on him... if he fools us again - shame on us) in 2004 it'll be obvious who's the fool and who's the crook. honest fool beats deceptive crook any day... especially an underdog fool. <g> america has a LOT more poor, disenfranchised, unhealthy, short, fat people like me than it has attractive, rich people who can make deals with crooks. the vote is mightier than the dollar. bush makes me sick, is there a doctor in the house? dr. dean will win easily. -shortsicklypoorunderdogfoolwith9votingpuppies.org ps- bill richardson for VP