To: stockman_scott who wrote (110623 ) 8/8/2003 6:03:57 PM From: Sully- Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 281500 "SEEK FIRST TO UNDERSTAND then be understood" <font size=4> Let's see if we can gain an understanding of your POV Scott...... From your own words, etc., right here on SI...... mind you, this is just a sample of stockman_scott's posts over the last 22 hours..... <font size=3> the NeoCONS don't like all this out in the open. They prefer EXTREME secrecy. They thought they successfully brainwashed the President and the country BUT now it's coming back to haunt them. The truth will be revealed. -s2@columbo.com Message 19189564 <<...Bush will beat Bush ...>> Yup...He's working overtime on it. Bush's lies and deceptions may beat Bush. Here are some interesting insights from a California newspaper...Message 19190767 Are you concerned that Bush lied and soldiers continue to die...? I have a friend who is a commander in the Rangers over in Iraq...... The Defense Department has now pushed back his return date 3 different times.... Does Bush really understand what is happening...? He never fought in combat and now he has our troops in a quagmire (that costs American taxpayers over $1 Billion each week). That's not real leadership...That's reckless leadership. Is Lying About The Reason For War An Impeachable Offense?Message 19190803 i'm all in favor of equal treatment. Lets hold our presidents accountable for their actions. If Bush lied and soldiers have died that's serious stuff. I can see why the GOP controlled Senate has held off on authorizing full scale investigations...Sometimes its painful to do the right thing.Message 19189623 Anyone think the NeoCONS have hijacked our foreign policy...? We're paying for it in blood and treasure every day.Message 19191745 Anyone interested in a President who wouldn't let the NeoCONS hijack our foreign policy...? -s2@concernedcitizen.coMessage 19191717 The Iran/Contra contingent of the NeoCONS are at it again...It seems like the President has no control over them as they work to sabotage U.S. negotiations with Iran.Message 19192735 <<...I suspect that any non-partison inquiry into Saudi Arabian connections with 9/11 will reveal a shocking failure of policy and diplomacy between the Bush administration and a nation that could, handled properly, have become an effective ally in the fight against terrorism. I also expect that it will reveal a de facto Saudi approval of the 9/11 attacks...>> Message 19190080 How Bush Misleads HimselfMessage 19192304 A Perspective From The Coast Of Maine... ....Conservatives are already talking openly about turning our country into a one-party government for a very long time, and if the Republicans win the presidency and Congress next year they could well be right..... You must show how his relentless exploitation of 9-11 for his own political gain has made us far more — not less — vulnerable to terrorist attack since that fateful day, a vulnerability that has grown and continues to grow..... He failed utterly to plan for the aftermath of that war, not only endangering our troops and the peace process, but revealing fatal weaknesses in our superpower status. Other adversaries are likely to exploit those weaknesses while we are bogged down in Iraq......Message 19191392 Bush Misuses Science, Report Says Message 19191138 .....our foreign policy needs balance and its dangerous to let too many hawkish folks have so much influence. I'm not even sure that Bush is fully aware of the agenda of the PNAC and the power some of the right wing advisors around him have is amazing. Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith, Edward Luttwak, Dov Zakheim, Kenneth Adelman, Elliott Abrams, Richard Haass, I. Lewis Libby, etc....These folks are all very hawkish..... Message 19191062 Why are so many Americans remaining silent? Silent as their rights are subtly being eroded. Silent as humans living in this country and elsewhere are being arrested and put in jail by our government without proper representation. Silent as details of their personal lives are being recorded by the government as never before. Silent as our already flimsy laws to protect the environment are being eroded. Silent as our government systematically ignores the sentiments of the most of the rest of the world. Silent as dissenting opinions are being squelched by the government aided by a cowardly press. Why this silence?.....Message 19191306 Al Gore (the man who received the most votes last time around) gave a powerful speech in New York yesterday...moveon.org Former Vice President Al Gore Remarks to MoveOn.orgMessage 19190936 Fahrenheit 911 Update: <<...Oscar-winner Michael Moore’s next project will depict the murky relationship between President Bush's father and the family of Osama bin Laden, suggesting that the bin Laden family was greatly enriched by that association.Message 19190096 Beware the Puppet Masters - All those groups and leaders who lived through Saddam Hussein’s reign cannot be pleased to see the exiles being foisted atop the country Message 19192216 Saudi Secrets Are Safe With BushMessage 19192148 The weird men behind George W Bush's warMessage 19192041 The Missing WoundedMessage 19191945 Hey, why keep an open mind when you don't have toMessage 19191844 What the US Says Goes The Painful Horrors of Political AutismMessage 19191837 Military Warns Soldiers Against Public Criticism Message 19191810 122 dead since "END OF MAJOR COMBAT"Message 19191525 Salt of the Earth By PAUL KRUGMAN Since we're stuck in Iraq indefinitely, we may as well try to learn something. But I suspect that our current leaders won't be receptive to the most important lesson......Message 19191208 Next Step on Korea Message 19189802 W's New Deal?Message 19189764 Is Bush toast in California...?Message 19190122 Bowling for Kennebunkport Message 19190059