To: smolejv@gmx.net who wrote (110802 ) 8/10/2003 12:58:50 PM From: marcos Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500 Mutato nomine even, yes we've been in this place before, the 1600s not the first time either, probably warring Ur-tribes went through the whole progression twenty thousands years back We need a functioning parliament of democracies, DJ ..... will the slovenes want a seat in such an effort? ... small nation, but rational and civilised by all appearances, there has to be an intelligence present, looks like they would do credit to the species ...... last night while waiting for the standard moves of threadsters in the back-and-forth Endless Waltz we've got going here <sigh>, i got to going over some of the links FaultLine put in the header ... here's one [a two-pager] - Message 18407694 ... and this is a three-pager - Message 18408686 Leaving aside validity of premises [Kagan appears quite ignorant of actual politics within the UK in the late 1700s, for instance] [raison d'etat, pffft] and certain conclusions [Kagan again, says europeos were afraid of Hussein, pffft], and while written from a US perspective and aimed at US nationals, these pieces do go over all the factors, and point up the central question, which is - Who shall decide what for whom, and according to what principles? ... the Qiwi gets it - #reply-19195608 ... for sure Godzown will be at the table Can't keep up with all posts ..... Hawk just proved my point, which is that might makes right is the rule of the day still ..... Nadine can just read her post, and quickly estimate what i'd type in response to such an opening, so on to Real Sunday Life now This is very well said, carranza - #reply-19196010 ... we are awash, it's like Salieri said of the music of Mozart, 'Too many notes.' What does Hackworth think of Gral Wesley Clark, one wonders, on seeing them both say sensible things ... Clark could likely get onto the mailing list for invitations to our new ParliaMundo, eh ..... cheers