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To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (11096)	8/11/2003 12:22:51 AM
From: Sig	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 13815

>>>I find this "offshoring" trend to be extremely disturbing. When I was in college I had a call center job. We can't offshore everything but senior management and expect to prosper as a nation, especially since the consumer is at the heart of it all.>> Np need to let it affect todays trading in the market. Been a lot of off-shoreing in the past (textiles a good example) and has built up a lot since the 1970's .Maybe we will all have to become managers or UPS drivers(g). But the US work will involve a great amount of computer work( to keep track of the goods and flow of materials, and much new software as that is not optimized yet .And still plenty of jobs installing and maintaining those items built overseas, and sold in Home Depot. Sig Alwaya a shift in jobs, I used to hate a job change. Rubber plantations, whaling ships, fish canneries,mostly gone> Textile mills in the South. No more hand-picked cotton, and there went a lot of jobs. . Steamboats went out when the railroads came in. A lot of ship building moved overseas. Italian leather. Brazilian corned beef. But we still have to fix those imported cars and install new tires which also provides jobs Sig .

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (11096)	8/11/2003 10:58:04 PM
From: pbull	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 13815

In my line of work, I just get bits and pieces from different people. It's usually not enough to make any definitive conclusions, but I can say Dallas really stinks right now _ at least to a lot of people who live there and are used to good times. Crime is way up. I've heard from a lot of people who say they were forced by management to take a 25 percent pay cut, or they lost their job and took a 50 percent pay cut at another company, or whatever. There are just jillions of them. A former production manager at a candy company, for example, was asked to take a 30 percent pay cut. He quit instead. He's in his mid-50s, and can't find anything that pays more than $8 an hour. That's the type of job market we're in right now. It seems no matter what your skill level, or your level of education, you can be replaced by someone who's eager to accept whatever position they can find. The economy is recovering _ slowly. But the job market definitely is not recovering. PB