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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: GROUND ZERO™ who wrote (441071)	8/11/2003 10:12:15 AM
From: cnyndwllr	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 769670

Zero, re: >>"our policy is the policy of freedom around the world, but since when is freedom an imposition?"<< Well, since you asked...... "Freedom" is an imposition when you give people no choice in choosing whether they will or will not have a democracy, when you choose who will run their "democracy," what kind of democracy they will have, when they will have it and who will be allowed to participate. It is even more of an imposition when you run their day to day lives at the point of a gun, when your primary goals are to build a government that is friendly to the west and when your primary interest in building that government is transparently for the purpose of controlling the natural resources of that country. Now that you mention it, I guess that's not really freedom at all. Maybe we should call it something else? How about occupation, or colonization, or the Americanizing of Iraq, or maybe we should just let them know that it's a "generational" process and we'll let them know when they're ready to see things our way? The point is that you can argue our interests in doing what we're doing in Iraq, but at least have the integrity to own up to the fact that we're not doing it so that Iraqis can be "free." Now what are all those oil men doing in our administration?

To: GROUND ZERO™ who wrote (441071)	8/23/2003 4:03:44 PM
From: AuBug	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

That was very eloquent diatribe there Scorched Earth, aka GROUND ZERO as in nuke 'em and let god sort 'em out. So you think it's our responsibility to pass judgement on every leader and country and culture and religion and go over there and kick the tar outta 'em until they straighten up and fly right as judged by us? I think you brilliantly explained what I meant by shoving our policies down their throats.