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To: Glenn Petersen who wrote (4723)	8/11/2003 2:56:22 PM
From: MSI	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793670

LOL! Exactly. Here's what the activitsts suggest as a way to fight back: "--Form a Votescam community watch group in your area. ...Our common cause is this: Clean, open, verifiable elections, with a paper trail, and citizen watchdog groups, with no major media control over the vote results. Period. No ideology involved. --... gather others who can understand the tyranny inherent in a secret ballot count. Network with surrounding communities. Contact people who can be of special use: writers, lawyers, candidates, student activist organizers, etc. Join forces with unlikely allies, involve conservatives and liberals, all party members. Show your community that this is everyone's cause. Remember, there cannot be a secret ballot count! It is unconstitutional! Don't be intimidated by elections supervisors. They are public servants! And many of them are not trained in election law. You might know more than they do. -- Demand your local media cover the story when you video tape the vote. Make it clear that videotaping a computerized vote count is not enough, you must be able to see the ballot count with your eyes. --Start a petition to throw out the computerized vote in your area and present it to your Secretary of State and Elections Supervisor. Demand citizen access and control over the vote count. --Contact Congressional candidates in your area and ask them to run a commercial in which they talk about votescam and the need for verifiable elections. This is allowed by law, they cannot be censored. As long as the material is not pornographic or offensive, they can say what they like. This is a great opportunity for independent candidates. --Air copies of the Votescam video on your public access stations. --Foster and support independent candidates in your area. Breath some new life into the political void by running for office yourself! --If you are more radically inspired, feel free to engage in nonviolent civil disobedience at the polls. Lock down to a voting machine! Have a sit-in at your local precinct. Organize mass direct-action campaigns on election day in your county. Be creative, and have fun! These are some ideas to start. Remember, it's your country, your vote, and your future, but we are all in this together. Whatever you do, please document it and let us know. votescam.com

To: Glenn Petersen who wrote (4723)	8/11/2003 7:49:20 PM
From: LindyBill	Respond to of 793670

JAY IT AIN'T SO! MUSCLEMAN CANDIDATE LIED TO LENO By DEBORAH ORIN - NEW YORK POST August 11, 2003 -- Arnold Schwarzenegger kept them guessing all the way - and even told "Tonight Show" host Jay Leno that he was bowing out of the California governor's race just minutes before he jumped in before a nationwide TV audience, it was reported yesterday. Before they went onstage, Leno asked Schwarzenegger how he planned to break the expected news that he wasn't running and the action hero murmured, "I am bowing out," Time magazine reports. The Terminator's top strategist, George Gorton, was standing in the wings with a no-go press release and told Schwarzenegger how sorry he was that they'd never make the race when Ah-nold put an arm around his shoulder and said: "Let's go do it!" the report said. But Gorton was so caught off-guard that it took him until after Leno's next commercial break to understand that Schwarzenegger wasn't kidding - he really was running. The report helps explain the surprise on Leno's face when Schwarzenegger said he was running - the late-night comic visibly paused before he leaned over and shook Arnold's hand. Schwarzenegger last week gave a clue to his keep-'em-guessing strategy when he told the "Today" show: "I think that the only way that you really keep it a secret is by not telling anyone." Nor did he tell his pal, former Los Angeles Mayor Richard Riordan, until after he'd told the world, according to Newsweek, which says Riordan was still expecting that Schwarzenegger would drop out and back him. After the "Tonight" show bombshell, Schwarzenegger called Riordan to "just make sure you knew I was running" - and Riordan replied: "I heard." Schwarzenegger, however, insists Riordan kept pushing him to run. "Dick Riordan called me the night before [Leno] and said to me, 'Arnold, you're the best candidate. I want you to run . . . I want to work for you," Schwarzenegger told the "Today" show last week. In either case, Riordan dropped plans to run for governor and quickly threw his support behind Schwarzenegger. nypost.com