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To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (111111)	8/12/2003 3:48:53 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Yes, I think you've caught me contradicting myself. Thank you. The general principle, (anti-colonialism, a strict respect for sovereignty), I'd like (ideally) to apply equally to all...I feel responsible for the actions of those nations that are very closely allied to the U.S...So, yes, Israel's actions get more scrutiny, they are expected to meet the Enlightenment ideals more than, say, Syria or Uganda. More than money going on here, I think. Egypt gets $2 billion a year from us and somehow I never hear the word leverage applied in their direction when they lock up & torture hundreds of prisoners, oppress the Copts, or print anti-American and anti-Semitic lies in their media. Britain also is very closely allied with us, yet when Tony Blair's government moved to reform jury trials in such a way as to have half of England in an uproar, not a notice from you. It's always Israel and only Israel, with no notice ever taken of the neighborhood they're in or the tactics they are trying to defend themselves against. It's as if one of the fighters in a boxing match pulled a knife, and you keep yelling at the other fighter, "Marquis of Queensbury rules! Marquis of Queensbury rules!" because you're allied to that fighter and feel "responsible" for him. I don't see Jewish nationalism (Zionism) as much different from any other nationalism. Israel is doing, more or less, what many nations have done. Now that the Diaspora is over (80% of Jews in two nations, one of which they rule, the other where they are not an oppressed minority), the Jewish nation is a normal nation like any other. The criticisms of Israel I make, I can (and do) apply to many other current and historical colonialisms. You do realize there is a certain contradiction inherent in calling the same movement a "nationalism" and a "colonialism" at the same time? Don't nations usually have some native patch of land associated with them? Again, I haven't heard you once suggest that the US give Texas back to Mexico. It's only Israel as always - again with no notice taken of the fact that she acquired the territory in defensive wars with enemies whose professed aim was her destruction. If Israel is now a "normal" country, I do wish you would treat her as one. Treat the Arabs as "normal" too, while you're at it. Then we might get somewhere.