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To: Oeconomicus who wrote (159050)	8/17/2003 6:13:24 PM
From: Bill Harmond	Respond to of 164684

latimes.com

To: Oeconomicus who wrote (159050)	8/18/2003 11:58:49 AM
From: zonder	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 164684

Let me guess: The same guy who said these... Bush's Statement The Washington Post says... "A report came out of the... [International Atomic Energy Agency], that [the Iraqis] were six months away from developing a weapon. I don't know what more evidence we need." Camp David, 9/7/02 "There was no new IAEA report... Bush cast as present evidence the contents of a report from 1996, updated in 1998 and 1999. In those accounts, the IAEA described the history of an Iraqi nuclear weapons program that arms inspectors had systematically destroyed." Bush's Statement The Washington Post says... "Iraq has made several attempts to buy high-strength aluminum tubes used to enrich uranium for a nuclear weapon." United Nations, 9/12/02 "Gas centrifuge experts consulted by the U.S. government said repeatedly for more than a year that the aluminum tubes were not suitable or intended for uranium enrichment. By December 2002, the experts said new evidence had further undermined the government's assertion. The Bush administration portrayed the scientists as a minority and emphasized that the experts did not describe the centrifuge theory as impossible." Bush's Statement The Washington Post says... "Facing clear evidence of peril, we cannot wait for the final proof, the smoking gun that could come in the form of a mushroom cloud." Cincinnati OH, 10/7/02 "What Hussein did not have was the principal requirement for a nuclear weapon, a sufficient quantity of highly enriched uranium or plutonium. And the U.S. government, authoritative intelligence officials said, had only circumstantial evidence that Iraq was trying to obtain those materials." Bush's Statement The Washington Post says... "The evidence indicates that Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear weapons program. Saddam Hussein has held numerous meetings with Iraqi nuclear scientists, a group of his 'nuclear mujahedeen,' his nuclear holy warriors." Cincinnati OH, 10/7/02 "Bush and others often alleged that President Hussein held numerous meetings with Iraqi nuclear scientists, but did not disclose that the known work of the scientists was largely benign. Iraq's three top gas centrifuge experts, for example, ran a copper factory, an operation to extract graphite from oil and a mechanical engineering design center." washingtonpost.com

To: Oeconomicus who wrote (159050)	8/18/2003 4:37:40 PM
From: MulhollandDrive	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 164684

bill clinton, 1998

To: Oeconomicus who wrote (159050)	8/21/2003 1:14:42 PM
From: Skeeter Bug	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 164684

just to clarify a little on dean... appaprently his mo was to raise taxes other than the income tax. he raised property tax to pay for education and raised some other taxes, too. he just highlights the fact he was pretty easy on the income tax. you coulda saved us all a lotta time if you just knew why you disliked the guy rather than just attack him our of instinct. anyway, i sense a republican disconnect. on the one hand, the pubs argue you can't balance a budget by raising taxes. on the other hand, dean did it. every year. so, the pubs are either wrong about dean raising taxes or they are wrong that you can't balance a budget by raising taxes. either way, they are wrong. now, i don't pretend to want taxes raised. i want spending cut. the hackers who ignorantly support their own party while havingfun hating the other party don't realize their own party is raping them, too. that's why i don't support either the demicans or the republicrats. the rape and pillage america, they just use different rhetoric to appeal to different folks. i'm one of the few who just wants the pillaging to stop and don't value "feel good," worthless rhetoric. balance the budget. that's all i care about. if the republicans can do it, great. but they aren't. they can't. bill clinton almost did, but he created a bubble so large and unsustainable that his actions may well financially crack america down the road. neither one wants to balance the budget. dean has a balanced budget track record. i like that. i may not like everything about him, however, i do rank fiscal responsibility high on my list at this point in history - so it is important. wrt to taxes... let those who own 10% of the stuff in america pay about 10%, those who own about 50% pay about 50% and those who own about 70% pay about 70% of taxes. that seems eminently fair to me. my hope is that spending would be cut to essential, value added services and programs, special interests would be dissed so they don't soak up billions and taxes moderated on all folks. that's a wish. imho, the NEED is to balance the budget. or the crack in america started by bill clinton will become a gaping hole in the next few years.