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To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (3491)	8/15/2003 2:57:49 PM
From: sammy levy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6945

<<<It is Israel who is breaking the rules over and over again>>> And SHE will continue to do that just to piss u off.

To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (3491)	8/15/2003 3:02:47 PM
From: Machaon	Respond to of 6945

MYTH : "Women's rights are now protected in the Arab world." FACT : (An extract from the longer article) "In Saudi Arabia, restrictions against women are among the most extreme in the Arab world. Saudi women may not marry non-Saudis without government permission (which is rarely given); are forbidden to drive motor vehicles or bicycles; may not use public facilities when men are present; and are forced to sit in the backs of public buses, segregated from men. At Riyadh's King Saud University, professors lecture to rooms of men while women watch via closed-circuit television from distant all-female classrooms.3a "[Islamic] Advice columns" in the Saudi Arabian press recommend strict disciplining of women as part of a proper marriage. Women must cover their entire body and face in public, and those who do not are subject to physical harassment from the Saudi religious police, known as the Mutaaw'in. The Saudis even extend their discriminatory treatment to women abroad. During a visit to the United States by Crown Prince Abdullah, for example, the prince's aides requested that no female air traffic controllers be allowed to control his flight into Texas to meet President Bush. They also requested that no women be allowed on the airport tarmac with the jet." us-israel.org Len, just wanted to post a little info about the government that you worship in Saudi Arabia.

To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (3491)	8/15/2003 3:05:20 PM
From: Machaon	Respond to of 6945

MYTH : "Women's rights are now protected in the Arab world." FACT : (another extract) "In most Arab countries, the Shari'a, or Islamic law, defines the rules of traditional social behavior. Under the law, women are accorded a role inferior to that of men, and are therefore discriminated against with regard to personal rights and freedoms. As Middle East expert Daniel Pipes explains: "In the Islamic view...female sexuality is thought of as being so powerful that it constitutes a real danger to society." Therefore, unrestrained females constitute "the most dangerous challenge facing males trying to carry out God's commands." In combination, females' "desires and their irresistible attractiveness give women a power over men which rivals God's."2 "Left to themselves," Pipes continues, "men might well fall victim to women and abandon God," resulting in civil disorder among believers. In traditional thought, Pipes notes, women pose an internal threat to Islamic society similar to the external one represented by the infidel." us-israel.org Len, why are you so afraid of women that you support the cruel treatment of women in the Arab countries?

To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (3491)	8/15/2003 3:10:29 PM
From: Machaon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6945

Treatment of Minorities (in Saudi Arabia) There is no freedom of religion in Saudi Arabia. All citizens must be Muslims, and only the Sunni branch of Islam can be practiced publicly. There is institutional discrimination against Shi’a Muslims. Religions other than Islam are tolerated if practiced discreetly; a number of Christians were deported in 2000 because they practiced “apostasy” in too public a manner. Asian and African workers living in Saudi Arabia report widespread discrimination, and difficulty in the redress of grievances. us-israel.org Len grASS-O, you mindlessly fault Jews for wanting to live free and safe in the Israeli democracy, but you say nothing about the terrible racism and religious intolerance in the Arab dictatorships. Is your mind that twisted with antiSemitism that you can't think straight?