To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (111777 ) 8/17/2003 1:30:10 AM From: Maurice Winn Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500 Nadine, Ghandi didn't carry a big stick. Saddam, Stalin and Hitler did. King George II does. India is about to celebrate their independence from Britain. I wonder how many people consider stickless Ghandi one of the more respected leaders there have been. Most of the really great leaders didn't carry big sticks. People just like to follow them. That Jesus guy has had a following for a couple of thousand years, some of whom carried very big sticks, but he was more of the turn the other cheek style and was the actual leader. He carried a big stick, but that was to be nailed to, not to hit other people with. Irwin Jacobs, $ill Gates and Warren Buffett are great leaders who don't carry big sticks. They offer high value trading opportunities. How about: Nelson Mandela Albert Einstein Gorby [who tossed the big sticks aside] Buddha I suppose there are others. Respected Big Stick wielders: Churchill Reagan [respected by many if not universally] Augustus [Roman Emperor]http://www.roman-emperors.org/auggie.htm Buddha, Jesus and Ghandi seem to have retained a big following better than the big stick wielders. Swarms of big stick wielders were simply terrifying barbarians, with Good Riddance on their tombstones. Respect has a very different meaning from fear. Idi Amin will be unlamented by nearly everyone. He will not sit alongside Ghandi, Gates and co in history. The problem with big sticks is that they seem to have an immediate good effect. Unfortunately, that effect isn't as good as it first appears. True leaders have a harder row to hoe, but the results are better and longer lasting. Speaking softly and carrying a big stick is a good idea. But use of the stick should be exiguous if respect and co-operation is the aim rather than fear and opposition. Mqurice