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To: Les H who wrote (12505)	8/17/2003 10:10:23 AM
From: Les H	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

Abrupt closure means mortgage applicants will have to start over insidedenver.com

To: Les H who wrote (12505)	8/17/2003 12:40:37 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Respond to of 306849

As far as China's motivation... you never know. Everybody knows they steal everything and the way US companies manage to deal with it is by enacting laws on the western countries that China sells into. So that Huiwei situation went to US courts to stop them from selling HERE. China isn't going to do anything about Huiwei. For manufacturers I believe the local produce laws which are present in most European countries, Australia etc. are really just there to create local jobs and add to local economy vs. letting US vendors do the scorched earth thing and destroy local industries. Which is ok by me, best to help build an affluent intl workforce that can actually BUY the products you are building. Japan used to dump on the US mkt, and they destroyed a bunch of consumer goods industries but something must have changed at some point, because Japan manufactures most cars they sell here now. We must have enacted some laws because I doubt Japan would have decided to do this on their own. The asian tigers in the 80s were notorious ripoff artists. I remember there was one case about some IP for some chip company (TI?)- these patents had held up in virtually every world court and japan has a IP theft case and - surprise - the Japanese courts rule that TIs patent is no longer valid. As far as software is concerned IP theft is a strange beast. I remember a few years ago Apple and Sybase were always crowing about IP theft locally. Apple sued some engr for stealing something out of a dumpster, and I know Sybase was always accusing oracle of "planting" employees to copy something or other. I don't know if this was just a PR move, or what. Unless you have a closed product like a video game, which stands on its own with no support, there is nothing a company like Oracle can do with Sybases code base. Apple, same deal. The only real advantage to a competitor is a possible evaluation of technical weaknesses in the product to exploit in a bakeoff. I always thought Apple and Sybase had executives with egos bigger than their brains. This is US based theft I am talking about. In China's case, stealing Cisco code helps them to build expertise they don't have currently. So there is some further motivation than would exist for a US company.