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To: Thomas M. who wrote (87)	8/18/2003 10:57:15 AM
From: marcos	Respond to of 261

Well it wasn't really an invasion of Viet Nam, the US just sort of filtered in there, a few at a time to start, to bolster up the Diem regime ..... whereas the russians did invade Afghanistan, for sure, they crossed the border in force and rolled tanks south, 'capturing' territory as they went [yeah right, well the locals felt differently about that] There is no value judgment in the term 'invasion', it's just a description of an action, there probably has to be a beachhead and/or border crossing in force to qualify for the term .... canadians invaded France in 1944, then Belgium, Holland, and Germany ... this was responsible action, our duty, it had to be done Carl would have no trouble saying 'invasion', were it the appropriate term, but 'sucked into' is more accurate imho ... 'occupation' would be the word for it, and 'ill-conceived military' the adjectives ... yes i find his posts very readable, they tend to stimulate thought and bring up new info in re perspective .... no qualifiers, he doesn't seem to believe in their use, which is maybe right in step with our Age of Moral Clarity eh, lol ..... at times when i can't keep up with posts over there i just read his from his bio, along with Steven Rogers, Jochen, a few others .... a lot of it is getting so repetitive now, it's turning into the dubya thread, you could train chimps to post those stupid one-line jabs, and breathe through their mouths like that In re the LoC country studies, yes there was a thing or two in the one on Viet Nam that surprised me with their frankness .... one period it only skims over, though, is 1944-46, when the decision was made to support de Gaulle's recolonisation programme .... the Truman admin traded off the vietnamese to deG to get his cooperation with the germans, in the first of the common market moves that led eventually to the EU