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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: one_less who wrote (444790)	8/18/2003 6:19:32 PM
From: DMaA	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

What Clinton or Bush did while they were a private citizens, I don't care about. What they did while occupants of the White House and Gov's Mansion are public concerns. I believe there is a grain of truth behind all of the hinted at skeletons in both men's closets. I don't much care about any of it.

To: one_less who wrote (444790)	8/18/2003 6:38:27 PM
From: Kevin Rose	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Ok, at least we've gotten to the heart of the issue, which is certainly not Clinton or Monica-gate. The issue is: are we going in the right direction? You call Afghanistan and Iraq 'glorious victories'. Well, I suppose that the Russians counted their initial takeover of Afghanistan as similarly 'glorious'. The US and former USSR were no match in conventional conflicts, but have both faired poorer in unconventional conflicts. I would count Afghanistan and Iraq a quick military victories, but their final result is far from decided. Will they become friendly allies with the US? IMO no, they will be more like Saudi Arabia; friends in name only, and as a matter of convenience. Once we've extracted ourselves as occupiers, will they harbor evil? Probably, given the geopolitics of the region and history. Same as Saudi Arabia. Don't count your victories until their won. Additionally, how long can we continue in this 'pattern of holding' in these two conflicts? There are costing us big time, in lives lost and torn aport, in billions of dollars, and in what remaining good will and allies we have. If we are still there in two years, we will be hurting big time, both from a dollar point of view and in military weariness. In the meantime, the real evil prince bin Laden continues on the loose. Our foray into Iraq brought us no closer to finding the man who launched 9/11. In fact, it has probably led us further away, as our resources are being spent in Iraq. Between our growing quagmires abroad and our growing economic morass in country, we are floundering. Promises of improvements to quality of life by Bush: education, job training, childrens hospitals, health care, etc - have languished and been forgotten. Forgotten, did I say? Maybe by Bush, but not by those who were promised.