Silicon Investor (SI) -- The First Internet Community

STOCKTALK

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor. We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community. If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.

Politics : Stockman Scott's Political Debate Porch -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: lurqer who wrote (25752)	8/19/2003 12:13:02 AM
From: Raymond Duray	Respond to of 89467

lurqer, The other notion of how Bush is a 13th Century Man has to do with his preferred view of political power. Much as with Antonin Scalia, one of the Supreme In-Justices, Bush sees himself as a special part of God's world. With God as the true Master and hisself (and Scalia) as *God's Chosen Leader™* on the face of the planet. Thus, beyond the laws of mere mortal men like you and me. It's a rather convenient affectation, doncha think?

To: lurqer who wrote (25752)	8/19/2003 12:40:54 AM
From: Mannie	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 89467

Did the last line of that story make you stop and scratch your head? 'Mr Bush also met the pregnant wife of one of the Pentagon victims, hugging and talking to her before giving her a kiss.' Seems odd to add to the story, considering it's been almost 2 years since the incident....

To: lurqer who wrote (25752)	8/19/2003 10:16:48 AM
From: stockman_scott	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

Former US Diplomat Says Rumsfeld Led Bush to War _______________________________ The AFP Sunday 17 August 2003 ATHENS - A former US diplomat who resigned over the Iraq war described US President George W. Bush as a "very weak" man led by the hand into battle by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld. Brady Kiesling, who was political counsellor at the US embassy in Athens at the time of his resignation in February, said in an open letter published by Greek daily To Vima that Rumsfeld exploited the war to increase his own power. Kiesling -- whose warning that US aims in Iraq were "incompatible with American values" struck a chord with the predominantly anti-war Greeks -- described Bush as "a politician who badly wants to appear strong but in reality is very weak." He said Rumsfeld led Bush by the hand into war, marginalized the secret services who had doubts about the war, and emerged as the top politician in Washington. "Easy to convince, (Bush) blindly believed in Rumsfeld's assurances that the occupation of Iraq would pay for itself," Kiesling said. "The longer we remain in Iraq, the more the resistance to the American presence is going to be a source of legitimacy for the extremists," he said. He called for an expanded role for the United Nations and the European Union in the reconstruction of Iraq. Kiesling said he regretted that US intelligence services had not spoken out about untruths concerning Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, which he added had humiliated the United States and damaged its closest ally, Prime Minister Tony Blair of Britain. ------- truthout.org

To: lurqer who wrote (25752)	8/19/2003 11:56:00 AM
From: Rarebird	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

<An analysis that supports the thesis that we're headed for third world status unless there's a change in direction.> Capital goods industries live and die by their successes or failures in developing brand new tools and processes. Their research and development costs are enormous. When such research does fail, the write-offs are huge. But if there is an ever larger flow of funds from government for MILITARY research and the tools, plant, and equipment which makes military gear, then the research of the capital goods industries research goes in that direction, abandoning research and development for the civil economy. Then, when the capital goods industries go full tilt towards making the plant and tools that build military equipment and gear, the civil economy industries are left stranded without the future assured flow of new tools and new productive equipment. They starve. Then, the nation in questions falls far behind the civil economy in nations not so burdened.