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To: The Philosopher who wrote (72555)	8/19/2003 7:49:05 AM
From: Rambi	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 82486

Was it you who talked recently about the swing back to conservatism from the liberalism which started in the 60s? Saw this at the Moderate thread about the growing young conservative movement and thought it interesting. Message 19221769 In particular, I noticed this sentence -- Why this upturn in conservatism? One reason is a healthy desire to tweak the noses of people in authority. America's academic establishment is so solidly liberal that Naderites easily outnumber Republicans. The leftists who seized control of the universities in the 1960s have imposed their world-view on the young with awesome enthusiasm, bowdlerising text-books of anything that might be considered sexist or racist, imposing draconian speech codes and inventing pseudo-subjects such as women's studies. It reminds me so much (and should you and K too, given we are all the 60s generation) of the mood of our youth. I can still remember the horror on my father's face when I told him I was voting Democratic. He turned to my mother and said, "What are they teaching here there? What are we paying them for?" He was a hardcore Goldwater-Nixon man. What may be forgotten in the inevitable swing back is that we did some GOOD things too. Our actions in Vietnam should have been questioned, Civil Rights, Women's Lib, all these things accomplished a great deal. It would be nice if we could do away with the silliness that has coattailed in with the positive results(well, the things I consider over the top :)) and keep the progress. My sons are pretty moderate-- more so than I was at their age, for sure. But they also have grown up much more tolerant of religions, races, cultural differences. They aren't activists as we were because they don't see the need for it in the same areas. I just hope the next generation is wise enough to pick the wheat from the chaff of what their parents did.

To: The Philosopher who wrote (72555)	8/19/2003 8:09:42 AM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

What if one believes that seeing homosexual relationships accepted in society as normal is not family-safe? And what if one believes that seeing people speaking in tongues or wrapped in snakes is not family-safe? Please excuse me for answering a question with a question. <g> I don't think we can or should protect kids from ideas. Nor should we protect them from knowing that everyone does not share their family's POV. That's not providing safety, that's developmentally disabling them. We should, however, protect them from public displays of sexuality. What's not fine is the neighbors feeling each other up in public or dressing like they're off to their jobs walking the streets, regardless of the sex of their partners. If the neighbors are homosexual but they aren't hanging all over each other--and the parents aren't making a fuss about their presence in the neighborhood--then the kids will assume that they're just roommates until they're old enough to deal with the reality. That, IMO, is family safe. Tarting our kids up like JonBenet Ramsey is, OTOH, not safe.