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To: JohnM who wrote (5380)	8/19/2003 9:51:27 AM
From: Tom Clarke	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793600

It's no mistake. He obviously believes it.

To: JohnM who wrote (5380)	8/19/2003 9:52:51 AM
From: DMaA	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793600

You think he simply misspoke? What do you think he intended to say?

To: JohnM who wrote (5380)	8/19/2003 2:19:06 PM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 793600

The Texas Republicans go after the Dems with fines. Good move. The AP reports that Democrats are threatening legal action if Senate Republicans don't rescind the sanctions they've been imposing on the 11 since last week, when they preliminarily adopted a resolution that denied absent Democrats and their staffers such things as parking spots at the Capitol, cell phone use, purchasing privileges and floor passes. Those sanctions come if the Democrats do not pay fines, imposed on them by their Republican colleagues, for missing daily floor sessions. The fines started at $1,000 a day and quickly moved to a maximum $5,000 a day per senator. In a letter from New Mexico, the Democrats wrote that the punitive measures "seek to punish us, our staffs, and, most important, our constituents, because we dare to stand firm by our convictions and by our duty in the best interest of our constituents." Republicans did not seem overly concerned about the Democrats' threat of legal action. "We welcome a judicial determination of their claims," said Dave Beckwith, a spokesman for Republican Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst. One Republican senator tried to draw the Democrats home with a promise to remove all the sanctions ? if they came back for a quorum. "I will personally move that we dispense with all penalties, restore all privileges, both sides do away with litigation and resume the work we were elected to do," state Sen. Todd Staples told the AP. cbsnews.com

To: JohnM who wrote (5380)	8/19/2003 6:06:21 PM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793600

Saudis in Iraq 'preparing for a holy war' By Mark Huband in London Financial Times Published: August 18 2003 19:45 Increasing numbers of Saudi Arabian Islamists are crossing the border into Iraq in preparation for a jihad, or holy war, against US and UK forces, security and Islamist sources have warned. A senior western counter-terrorism official on Monday said the presence of foreign fighters in Iraq was "extremely worrying". A statement purportedly from al-Qaeda was broadcast on Monday by the Arab satellite television channel al-Arabiya. It claimed the al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden and the leader of the Afghanistan's ousted Taliban regime Mullah Mohammed Omar were still alive. But it also asserted that recent attacks on US forces in Iraq were the work of jihadis. The focus of concern for US counter-terrorist officials was at first on a reconstituted Ansar al-Islam, the al-Qaeda-linked terrorist group based in northern Iraq before the war. But US officials have recently acknowledged the presence of other foreign fighters in Iraq. Paul Bremer, the US administrator in Iraq, said recent raids, including one near al-Qaim last month, uncovered fighters "carrying travel documents from a variety of countries". According to Saad al-Faguih, a UK-based Saudi dissident, the Saudi authorities are concerned that up to 3,000 Saudi men have gone "missing" in the kingdom in two months, although it is not clear how many have crossed into Iraq. Saudis who have gone to Iraq have established links with sympathetic Iraqis in the northern area between Baghdad, Mosul and Tikrit, where they have hidden in safe-houses, a Saudi Islamist source said on Monday. Pressure on Islamists in Saudi Arabia has grown since the bombing of an expatriate residential compound in May killed 35 people. The subsequent arrest of many Islamists has forced some underground while others are trying to flee to Iraq. "Part of this movement of people has been individual, but it is getting more organised now," Saad al-Faguih said, adding that the loose organisation of Saudi Islamists did not have a clear link to al-Qaeda. "Al-Qaeda is there and not there. But its umbrella is huge, which is what has given it its ability to survive," he said. A senior UK official said there was evidence of extremists from several countries focusing on Iraq, though it was unclear what role al-Qaeda played. "I don't know whether you can talk about an al-Qaeda strategy in Iraq, though there is great evidence of al-Qaeda involvement in the jihadi cause inside Iraq. But there's as much talk about other people doing things inside Iraq," the official said. news.ft.com