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To: Shack who wrote (79381)	8/19/2003 7:42:27 PM
From: jjstingray	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 209892

Okay, as long as we all make it a point to keep the bullishness in check. I agree the setups are there and for that I am bullish. Helk, I was bullish two weeks ago, glad everyone is now joining the party. ggg.

To: Shack who wrote (79381)	8/19/2003 9:37:45 PM
From: mishedlo	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 209892

I would note that Rydex bear money is barely moving, still jammed. at some point doesnt it just stop to matter? At the market bottom, people held on to CSCO INTC KLAC and god knows what else. It just did not matter. Bad news did not matter, PEs did not matter, nothing mattered. The true LTBHers were left. Is it possible that the true LTSHers are what is left now. If this is a continual set of new people investing in these funds perhaps it is still contrary, but like those who refused to sell, these people that insist on staying short, will eventually be right. Personally I do not think Rydex ratios matter 1 iota. Other markets are driving this and Rydex is a mere pittance of the overall market. M