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To: GST who wrote (112035)	8/20/2003 12:05:12 AM
From: Sig	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

<<Iraq is a burning mess. The UN did not invade Iraq. The UN is trying to clean up the mess. In the process, the UN has become a target. The UN has no authority in Iraq -- the occupying army of the US is "in charge" of security. Iraq is a lawless country in the midst of what has become a guerilla war. The war will likely continue until Iraq is liberated -- one way or the other. >>> So what is the problem, are you not a humanitarian? Do you realize that under Saddam the children were dying at a rate of 6,500 per month in excess of what they would in an average environment? And the mass graves are no longer being filled? I know, the Iraqis tend to blow each other up, and sometimes kill a soldier.But that will change. Takes time Sig

To: GST who wrote (112035)	8/20/2003 9:27:38 AM
From: stockman_scott	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

The latest from The New York Times' Maureen Dowd: "Magnet For Evil" Message 19225449 <<...The Bush team has now created the very monster that it conjured up to alarm Americans into backing a war on Iraq. Rushing to pummel Iraq after 9/11, Bush officials ginned up links between Saddam and Al Qaeda. They made it sound as if Islamic fighters on a jihad against America were slouching toward Baghdad to join forces with murderous Iraqis. There was scant evidence of it then, but it's coming true now. Since America began its occupation, Iraq has become the mecca for every angry, hate-crazed Arab extremist who wants to liberate the Middle East from the "despoiling" grasp of the infidels. "Increasing numbers of Saudi Arabian Islamists are crossing the border into Iraq, in preparation for a jihad, or holy war, against U.S. and U.K. forces, security and Islamist sources have warned," The Financial Times said yesterday, quoting a Saudi dissident who noted that Saudi authorities are concerned that "up to 3,000 Saudi men have gone `missing' in the kingdom in two months." One of the things the terrorists in Baghdad and Jerusalem blew up yesterday was the credibility of the Panglossian Bush version of what's happening in the Middle East...>>