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To: Silver_Bullet who wrote (13510)8/20/2003 4:44:09 PM
From: xcr600  Respond to of 48461
 
ot- when this story first broke here a couple nites ago, it was a "good samaritan shot along roadside" type story. In it they mentioned it was a Marine shot prior to leaving for Iraq. I looked at the wife and immediately said that I'd bet her $100 he either shot himself or was shot intentionally by a friend. Well..................

Marine admits he shot himself, Anoka Sheriff's Office says
Jim Adams
Star Tribune
Published 08/21/2003

An Andover man who told authorities he had been shot while trying to help a stranded motorist has now acknowledged that he shot himself, according to the Anoka County Sheriff's Office.

On Monday, Adam D. Welter, 20, told authorities that when he stopped to help a stranded pickup truck driver, the man shot him in the left shoulder, said Anoka County sheriff's Capt. Bob Aldrich. Welter is a U.S. Marine on leave and was scheduled to return to active duty Monday. His wound wasn't life-threatening and he was released from a hospital Monday.

But a Sheriff's Office investigation determined the wound was self-inflicted.

Welter apparently was despondent about an impending long-term overseas military assignment, according to a news release from the sheriff's office issued this morning. It said Welter expressed deep regret for the incident and that his family will be working to get help for him.

Welter had been in training about a year and came home for a two-week leave before he was scheduled to be stationed in Hawaii, Welter's mother, Valerie Welter, has said. It wasn't clear where he was to be sent.

Attempts to contact Welter at his home Wednesday were unsuccessful.

Jim Adams is at jadams@startribune.com.

© Copyright 2003 Star Tribune. All rights reserved.

startribune.com



To: Silver_Bullet who wrote (13510)8/20/2003 4:47:34 PM
From: Threshold  Respond to of 48461
 
I don't think they are any more committed to "re-building" Iraq than they were to "re-building" Afghanistan.

Certain things will be rebuilt, and exports will resume. Electricity, clean water and security will be available to all those who work for the US in the Iraqi oil industry.

E, CW and S for the rest of Iraq doesn't pay those who pull the strings and donate to campaigns.



To: Silver_Bullet who wrote (13510)8/20/2003 5:40:19 PM
From: Bucky Katt  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 48461
 
It gets worse>

Are we in control? I don't think so.
Besides the following blurb, I understand there aren't too many UN people left in Baghdad either...





IMF, World Bank Pull Out of Iraq

UNITED NATIONS -- The World Bank and the International Monetary Fund pulled their staffs out of Iraq on Wednesday after the bombing of the U.N. headquarters in Baghdad, a U.S. official said.

The IMF and World Bank are key players in efforts by the U.S.-led coalition to rebuild Iraq's devastated economy. The official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the institutions informed the U.S. Treasury Department of their decision. The two are expected to provide billions of dollars in loans to help restart the country's economy and banking system. Both had sent assessment teams to Iraq to start the process.

Hopes of finding survivors faded Wednesday afternoon, 24 hours after an explosives-rigged truck brought down the facade of U.N. offices in the Canal Hotel, killing at least 20 people including the top U.N. envoy in Iraq, Sergio Vieira de Mello. About 100 people were wounded.

A key member of the U.S.-picked interim government said the death toll could go much higher. About 300 U.N. employees worked at the headquarters.

"There are many who are still trapped in there," said Ahmad Chalabi, a member of the Governing Council and leader of the Iraqi National Congress. Mr. Chalabi insisted the bomb was the work of Hussein loyalists but gave no evidence to support that.

FBI Special Agent Thomas Fuentes said the bomb had been delivered by a KAMAZ flatbed truck. Such trucks were made in the former Soviet Union. U.S. officials had said on Tuesday that a cement truck delivered the explosives.

"We believe it [the bomb] was made from existing military ordnance," he told the Associated Press. "I cannot say that it required any great degree of sophistication or expertise to create."
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And that is the problem in a "nutshell" and all the $billions in the world can't stop an illiterate moron from doing this type thing....
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And then here is this bit of news>>

Mr. Chalabi also said the Governing Council had received information Aug. 14 -- just days before the bombing -- that there would be a terror attack in Baghdad, and that the council warned the U.S.

"The information said that the attack would be aimed at a soft target, not the American military or forces. The information said the attack would use a truck and would be carried out by using a suicide mechanism or by remote control. We shared this information with the Americans," Mr. Chalabi told reporters.



To: Silver_Bullet who wrote (13510)8/21/2003 1:34:27 PM
From: John F. Poteraske  Respond to of 48461
 
Read a article-saying that 24 hour power would take approx.
2 years-this was from a U.S. source. The current situation
is that power be spread equally among the whole country
instead of select cities-so for example baghdad which had
power 18-24 hours per day. Now may have power for 4 hours.
But this means that others which had been delegated much
less electricity now have more. BTW-All the sewage is
being dumped into the river since the sewage treatment
plants were not operational-because of looting etc. This
is what also happened with the power situation also. It
would be interesting to hear a discussion on TV about this
in more depth.