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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (112268)	8/21/2003 2:33:22 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Respond to of 281500

Nice post, Hawk.

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (112268)	8/21/2003 3:38:36 PM
From: Bilow	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Hi Hawkmoon; Re: "We simply have no other choice except to quarantine the entire region and cut them off from interaction with the rest of the world until they die off to "manageable" population levels ..." You're basically a genocidal maniac at heart. But I like you. Re: "... or finally realize (as in Iran) that fundamentalists are just as corrupt and inept as their secular leaders." Iraq has never had fundamentalist rulers, so how the hell do you think that they're gonna figure out that those rulers that they've never had are just as corrupt and inept as their secular leaders? In Iran, the people figured out what you point out about fundamentalist leaders, only by direct experience. By the way, those corrupt and inept secular leaders in Iraq you're talking about. Would those be leaders like the ones who corruptly suppressed evidence that the Iraqis had no WMDs, lied about it in public, and then went back on their word and attacked Iraq? The ones who the Iraqi people are convinced are only there to support Israel and to steal their oil? Or would it be the inept secular authorities in Iraq that can't pump oil, keep electricity running, stop looting, prevent constant attacks, etc.? Unless you actually name names, your posts can get confusing. -- Carl P.S. Kasserine pass was an incident in WW2, which was not a battle for "hearts and minds" like Iraq or Vietnam (or Iran for that matter). The fact is that we won the battle for the hearts and minds in Iran without invading and occupying their country. But you reject this lesson of history.