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To: E. T. who wrote (3286)8/22/2003 5:35:31 AM
From: zonder  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20773
 
Don't make me think you don't understand what I am talking about.

Or are you deliberately trying to change the subject, because you realized your "rationale" is crumbling?



To: E. T. who wrote (3286)8/22/2003 10:45:56 PM
From: Raymond Duray  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20773
 
E.T.,

Hurry back. We can't quite tell what planet you are living on, but it certainly appears to be an alternative universe.

Re: Why don't the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi people who died under Saddam's reign have meaning for you?

Why don't the million or so vulnerable Iraqis who died because of U.S./UK/UN imposed sanctions ruining water and sanitation supplies and crippled hospitals for a dozen years matter to you? Here's the plan that the U.S. military executed in 1991.
gulflink.osd.mil
zmag.org
The Department of Death destroyed Iraq's infrastructure, itself a war crime, and then the U.S. imposed sanctions made sure that infants and other vulnerable Iraqis died in a war of attrition for the next dozen years. And then UN Ambassador Madeleine Albright called this "an acceptable cost" of U.S. policy in 1997.

Re: And for all your griping, the Iraqi people are better off today and their future is brighter than it has been for the last 25 years

All thinking Iraqis know that they've lost their oil wealth to klepocratic American corporations. See: alternet.org

Iraq is in the grip of a pack of thieves. Thieves who are stealing not only the Iraqi future, but also that of the American taxpayer who has been duped into paying for the greatest heist ever pulled.

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Re: How many hundreds, perhaps thousands, of dead Iraqi Shi-ites is Chemical Ali responsible for? Why doesn't his murdering have meaning to you?

Because what the U.S. has done is far worse.

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Re: I think the world is a better place now with Saddam off the scene, and I think most Iraqi people would agree with me.

Only the White House and the CPA, Bremer's scheme for occupation/exploitation, is putting out this sort of propaganda. No one else. Read the foreign press. Read the Arab press in particular. Except where it is censored, the anger over this occupation is being expressed very loudly.

The reality is that there is less security, less electricity, less water, less sanitation, fewer jobs, more economic insecurity and less hope among average Iraqis today than there was during Saddam's reign. The Iraqis have descended to a new and much less happy level.

As Dottie Parker might ask: "What kind of fresh Hell is this?"