To: Win-Lose-Draw who wrote (19394 ) 8/23/2003 1:35:11 AM From: d:oug Respond to of 32883 Dear Win-Lose-Draw, . Upfront let me say that i have no knowledge of the conflict that you reference, infact at this moment i do not remember the name of the person you reference in your post. . After i post this i will click onto your Si profile and then go to one of posts here today to click on the other person's profile. I mention this only as a reference to marcos's suggestion, as follows: --- To:Win-Lose-Draw From: marcos Friday, Aug 22, 2003 ... there is a level of human being below reptilian in its morals, and she will see the crapstock touters as merely one more... ... freedom of speech may have its sharp edges, it's true, the trick though is to grab it by the handle not the blade, then swing it with a passion [end.] --- What i know of marcos tells me that you are being baited by this other person in a manner to harass you by pushing them hot button each of us carry internally that explode us with rage and anger each time almost anyone presses. . Eventhought this places you as the "good" guy, versus the other person taking on the role as bad guy, marcos being a genuine good & nice & smart person has lead you in a direction that will increase your discomfort, and more importantly, prevent you from increasing a connection to those people closest to you, and infact damage what you now have. . re: Responding to Msg from Win-Lose-Draw ... my kid will soon be old enough to read, i want she should stumble across this site where one of life's perpetual losers has Bob's OK to make posts questioning her paternity? [stop.] --- I'll itemize the points you will make towards your "kid." - Don't judge me by what i say and do, but what others, especially those i think are bad people, say. - I don't have a bond with you strong enough such that when you hear from strangers, words that on the face of it, imply that i have done a disservice towards you in our relationship, that you have not acquired enough connection between us that which identifies us as father/daughter, to work with such that a resolution can be obtained, and no matter what that may be, we can work together and build a structure that will support our relationship for a long & healthy life. - By placing the responsibility on another [BobZ] i am also telling you that i do not want to take any stand that requires me to acknowledge an understanding of events between us, because this i am uncomfortable with, the process of us having any kind of real father-daughter conversion about the facts of life that include the manner men & women react to each other outside the narrow educational process of biology & birds & bees. - Bottom line, there is information i have keep from you based on my troubled mind fearing you "hearing from others" things about me or us i have not told you.