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To: stockman_scott who wrote (112465)	8/23/2003 3:16:36 PM
From: KyrosL	Respond to of 281500

Duh, now the press starts figuring it out. Let's see how long it will take the administration to figure it out and correct it -- if their arrogance will let them.

To: stockman_scott who wrote (112465)	8/23/2003 4:00:50 PM
From: GST	Respond to of 281500

An excellent post. Neocon ideology blends arrogance and stupidity into a policy of unilateralism

To: stockman_scott who wrote (112465)	8/23/2003 4:05:49 PM
From: Sig	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

>>>Dissolving Iraqi Army Was Costly Choice<<< Well their you go Scott, the re-thinkers are at it again.. Dissolving what ?, They threw down their arms and vanished Or do they mean we should have captured them on the march to Baghdad, set up camps, provided food water and shelter from our very limited rations ? Delayed the assault and used troops for guarding them? Since we have treated the Iraqis as gently as possible under the circumstances, those soldiers now come out of the woodwork and say..>>>>. "Yup, I was one who was sworn to kill you 4 months ago. shooting from ambush and in civilian clothes , but we did not reaaaalllllllly mean it.. We are truly converted and want our weapons and jobs back, and its not too safe living among those .Iraqis who seem to be really mad about our having made their relatives vanish" Sig

To: stockman_scott who wrote (112465)	8/23/2003 4:06:57 PM
From: Jacob Snyder	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

The basic problem here, is that U.S. policy is being made by control freaks. They have no flexibility, no ability to compromise, delegate, share authority, build coalitions, make realistic adjustments. They insist, in every decision, that they retain 100% control. They didn't want to co-opt the existing Iraqi army, because it would dilute the authority of the U.S. Inevitably, whoever ended up in charge of that Iraqi army, would be the ruler of Iraq. He would have his own power base, and would not be a compliant proxy for the NeoCons. That Iraqi army, and the Iraqi general in charge of it, would be the champion of Iraqi nationalism. Because the Neocons are incapable of sharing any power, they will end up losing all power. The Islamists end up being the only champions of Iraqi nationalism left standing, and it is they who will rule, after we leave in defeat. What a sorry shambles.