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To: Chas. who wrote (112484)8/23/2003 5:46:45 PM
From: Jacob Snyder  Respond to of 281500
 
<I think there was an element of legitimacy to the Crusades and early on against the Jews...>

I'd like to hear more on this.

Please, tell us what the Jews did, to deserve this:

At Worms Bishop Allebranches received such of the Jews as he could into his palace, and saved them; upon the rest the Crusaders fell with the savagery of anonymity, killing many, and then plundering and burning the homes of the Jews; here many Jews committed suicide rather than repudiate their faith. Seven days later a crowd besieged the episcopal residence; the Bishop told the Jews that he could no longer hold back the mob, and advised them to accept baptism. The Jews asked to be left alone for a while; when the Bishop returned he found that nearly all of them had killed one another. The besiegers broke in and slew the rest; all in all, some 800 Jews died in this pogrom at Worms (August 20, 1096). Similar scenes occurred at Metz, Regensburg, and Prague. 216.239.51.104

And if this was legitimate, if the Jews deserved this (why, exactly?), then what do you think of those Christians, including priests, who tried to protect their local Jews? Were they cowards and traitors, like today's antiwar protestors? Traitors to what? What, exactly, did the Jews and Muslims do? What confers legitimacy on pogroms and crusades?

I agree with you, this is quite topical, as it has applications for our modern treatment of the "juvenile enemy combatants" at Guantanamo, and the racial profiling by jealous Homeland Securitarians.