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To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (112560)	8/24/2003 2:17:11 AM
From: stockman_scott	Respond to of 281500

telegraph.co.uk

To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (112560)	8/24/2003 3:18:47 AM
From: greenspirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Jacob, you're wrong from so many different angles it's difficult to even respond. But, since you're such a prolific writer on this thread, I feel compelled to say something. First of all, Iraq was being controlled by an evil murderer until 4 months ago. Saddam and his henchmen killed and tortured thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands. Your drumbeat of anti-American analysis seems to neglect this obvious fact. Secondly, America isn't like Britain of 200 years ago, or like Rome, or like any other nation in the history of the planet. It was founded on the principles of freedom and democratic governance. That imperative is what guides and shapes our foreign policy initiatives. America is about as likely to rule indefinitely over the people of Iraq as Cuba is to rule America. We will be there until the people of Iraq have a fighting chance to succeed against the Baathist left. When they've formed a government, and stabilized the terrorist elements, if they ask us to leave, we will leave. To believe otherwise is to engage in wishful thinking of the highest anti-american order. Everywhere on the planet where American forces are present, we are there at the behest of the host country. If Italy asked us to leave tomorrow, we would leave. If Japan asked us to leave we would leave, if Korea, or Germany or any of the other places asked us to leave, we would leave. In fact, we did recently leave the Philippines for that very reason. The fact that nations around the world don't ask us to leave, and many more seek us to move bases into their country, says more about out relationship and motives, than any negative link into history you might desperately wish to find.