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To: hdl who wrote (20261)8/24/2003 12:43:11 PM
From: lorne  Respond to of 23908
 
DAY OF INFAMY 2001
Group celebrates 'Magnificent 19' hijackers
British Islamists bent on global conquest plan 9-11 conference
August 23, 2003

A group operating openly in Britain that regards itself as a front line for global Islamic conquest, is planning a conference to celebrate the anniversary of America's "comeuppance" on Sept. 11, 2001.

Two years after the attacks on New York and the Pentagon, "Muslims worldwide will again be watching replays of the collapse of the Twin Towers, praying to Allah … to grant those magnificent 19 Paradise," says the group, Al-Muhajiroun, on its English-language website.

Poster for 2003 conference

Al-Muhajiroun was founded in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia in 1983 by a Syrian cleric, Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed, who was expelled from Saudi Arabia and has lived in London since 1986 despite an unsuccessful appeal for asylum.

The group fashions itself in the UK as a pressure group seeking to uphold the rights of Muslim citizens. But its website clearly details its stated aim to re-establish the "Khilafa," or world Islamic state, which it contends was destroyed by imperialist Europe.

A terrorist who blew himself up in Tel Aviv on April 29, Asif Hanif, and his accomplice, Omar Khan Sharif, had ties to Al-Muhajiroun, according to British authorities.

Al-Mujahiroun's British leader, Anjem Choudary, has claimed the organization has a worldwide following, with 30 offices across Britain and others in Pakistan, Kuwait, France, South Africa, Lebanon, Bangladesh, Mauritius, Saudi Arabia, Syria and Algeria, according to the London Telegraph.

Shortly after the Sept. 11 attacks, Choudary said Al-Muhajiroun represented a much more mainstream Muslim agenda than admitted by other Islamic groups in the country.

"It is they who are sold out and secular. We are the ones who have not compromised our Islamic faith," he said, according to the Telegraph.

In its press release about the upcoming Sept. 11 conference, the group said Muslims worldwide will be praying "for the reverberations" of 9-11 "to continue until the eradication of all man-made law and the implementation of divine law in the form of the Khilafah -- carrying the message of Islam to the world and striving for Izhar ud-Deen, i.e. the total domination of the world by Islam."

Poster for 2002 conference

Al-Muhajiroun held a similar meeting of clerics Sept. 11, 2002 at Finsbury Park mosque in north London, where they launched the Islamic Council of Britain, which seeks to implement Shariah, or Islamic law in the UK.

Mohammed, who has been investigated by Scotland Yard's anti-terrorist squad for anti-semitic statements, said at the time, "The people at this conference look at September 11 like a battle, as a great achievement by the mujahideen against the evil superpower."

The group said Muslims will celebrate Sept. 11 this year, rejoicing the U.S. got its "comeuppance for atrocities" it has committed, "and indeed continues to commit, against Muslims."

Afghanistan and Iraq are the most recent examples, the statement said.

"With thousands of innocent Muslims still in captivity under barbaric conditions in Guantanamo Bay, the U.S. inquisition against Islam and Muslims shows no signs of subsiding," the group said. "In contrast, the operations being carried out by the Mujahideen against the occupiers in Iraq, Palestine, Chechnya and in Afghanistan have also been stepped up to meet the menace led by the U.S. and UK regimes."

The organization said since Sept. 11, 2001, Muslims have noted the "objective of living under the Shariah and ridding all Muslim land not only of the occupiers, but also the dictatorial regimes and the secularists, has gained massive momentum. From Indonesia and Malaysia to Yemen and Nigeria, the call for the return of the Khilafah system, of ruling solely by the Shariah, can be heard."

Al-Muhajroun said, "The hatred towards the U.S. and UK, and their evil plans to crush Islam and Muslims, and to force a washed-down version of Islam on Muslims, similar to Christianity, has backfired, and instead, more and more Muslims are queuing up to fight Jihad and are willing to die to see the domination of divine law over man made law."

"The willingness to die," the group said, "can be seen in the face of those like Imam Samudra, who was recently given the death penalty for his involvement in the Bali bombings, and yet, when the verdict was handed out, he celebrated his upcoming martyrdom (insha'allah) in the way of Allah."

worldnetdaily.com



To: hdl who wrote (20261)8/24/2003 3:56:17 PM
From: lorne  Respond to of 23908
 
hdl. You raised some very good points in that post.



To: hdl who wrote (20261)8/25/2003 3:20:42 AM
From: lorne  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 23908
 
..." There's no choice. You kill it here, or the next generation of suicide bombers will be on buses in Rotterdam, Manchester, Lyons, and blowing up the UN building in Manhattan. This is the battlefield."...

Iraq is battlefield for war vs. terror
August 24, 2003
BY MARK STEYN SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST
suntimes.com

Among the more comical moments of a grim week was the sight of the president of the Security Council expressing his condemnation of the terrorist attack on the UN. He was the representative of Syria. Syria is a terrorist state. Syrians have flooded across the border into Iraq to take up arms with their beleaguered Baathist brethren. It would not be surprising to discover a Syrian connection to one or both of Tuesday's terrorist strikes in Baghdad and Jerusalem. But Syria happens to hold the presidency of the Security Council, so a fellow who's usually the apologist for terrorists gets to go on TV to represent the international community's determination to stand up to terrorism.

Well, that's the luck of the draw at the UN, where so far this year Libya, Iraq and Syria have found themselves heading up the Human Rights Commission, the Disarmament Committee and the Security Council. The UN's subscription to this charade may be necessary in New York, but what's tragic is that they seem to have conducted their affairs in Baghdad much the same way. Offers of increased U.S. military protection were turned down. Their old Iraqi security guards, all agents of Saddam's Secret Service there to spy on the UN, were allowed by the organization to carry on working at the compound. And sitting in the middle of an unprotected complex staffed by ex-Saddamite spies was Sergio Vieira de Mello, the individual most directly credited with midwifing East Timor into an independent democratic state. Osama bin Laden (or rather whoever makes his audiocassettes) and the Bali bombers have both cited East Timor as high up on their long list of grievances: the carving out, as they see it, of part of the territory of the world's largest Islamic nation to create a mainly Christian state. Now they've managed to kill the fellow responsible. Any way you look at it, that's quite a feather in their turbans.

But it doesn't really matter who's actually to blame--Baathist Iraqis or al-Qaida Saudis. As far as the world's press is concerned, the folks who are really to blame are the Americans. It's the Americans' fault because:

a) They made Iraq so insecure their own troops are getting picked off every day;

b) OK, fewer are being picked off than a few weeks back, but that's only because the Americans have made their own bases so secure that only soft targets like the UN are left;

c) OK, the UN's a soft target only because they turned down American protection, but the Americans should have had enough sense just to go ahead and install the concrete barriers and perimeter trenches anyway;

d) OK, if they'd done that, the beloved UN would have been further compromised by unduly close association with the hated Americans, which is probably what got them killed in the first place.

In other words, whatever happens, it's always evidence of American failure. That's the only ''root cause'' most of the West is interested in. Anyone who thinks Tuesday's events might strengthen the international community's resolve to resist terrorism is overlooking the fact that among the Europeans, the Canadians and New Zealanders, the British and Australian press, CNN and the New York Times and a large majority of the Democratic Party, the urge to surrender is palpable.

At the moment, there's only one hyperpower (the United States), one great power (the United Kingdom) and one regional power (Australia) that are serious about the threat of Islamist terrorism. There's also Israel, of course, but Israel's disinclination to have its bus passengers blown to smithereens is seen as evidence of its ''obstinacy'' and unwillingness to get the ''peace process'' back ''on track.'' What a difference it would make if one or two other G-7 nations were to get serious about the battle and be a reliable vote in international councils. But who? France? It's all business to them, unless al-Qaida are careless enough to blow up the Eiffel Tower. Canada? Canadians get blown up in Bali, murdered in Iran, tortured in Saudi Arabia, die in the rubble of the UN building in Baghdad--and their government shrugs. Belgium? They'd rather issue a warrant for Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld than Chemical Ali.

And so on Tuesday, up against an enemy unable to do anything more than self-detonate outside an unprotected facility and take a few Brazilian civil servants and Canadian aid workers with him, the global community sent out a Syrian ambassador to read out some boilerplate and then retreated into passivity and introspection and finger-pointing at Washington. This is the weirdly uneven playing field on which the great game is now fought. Islamic terrorism is militarily weak but ideologically confident. The West is militarily strong but ideologically insecure. We don't really believe we can win, not in the long run. The suicide bomber is a symbol of weakness, of a culture so comprehensively failed that what ought to be its greatest resource--its people--is instead as disposable as a firecracker. But in our self-doubt the enemy's weakness becomes his strength. We simply can't comprehend a man like Raed Abdel Mask, pictured in the press last week with a big smile, a check shirt and two cute little moppets, a boy and a girl, in his arms. His wife is five months pregnant with their third child. On Tuesday night, big smiling Raed strapped an 11-pound bomb packed with nails and shrapnel to his chest and boarded the No. 2 bus in Jerusalem.

The terrorists watch CNN and the BBC and, understandably, they figure that in Iraq America, Britain, the UN and all the rest will do what most people do when they run up against someone deranged: back out of the room slowly. They're wrong. There's no choice. You kill it here, or the next generation of suicide bombers will be on buses in Rotterdam, Manchester, Lyons, and blowing up the UN building in Manhattan. This is the battlefield.



To: hdl who wrote (20261)8/25/2003 5:11:55 PM
From: Yaacov  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 23908
 
lorn, hou can't be serious, is it your opinion or your quoting! The are not worred about buring churches or Jewish Temples, why shold we worry about bombing a mosque? These guys want respect but they don't want to give it.

Maybe all non US Citizens of Arab decent should be sent home?