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To: Lane3 who wrote (73152)8/24/2003 5:45:11 PM
From: The Philosopher  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
No matter how one receives it though, what is delivered is still an insult

That's where we differ, which is where we have differed all along.

You apparently believe that an insult takes only one person; that if one intends an insult, then an insult had been "delivered."

I submit that it has been offered, but not delivered unless received as such.

This is our key difference on, for example, the instance of the neighbor not being invited to the party. You think that if it was intended as an insult, therefore it was an insult. I believe that if the recipient refused to take it as an insult, then no insult was delivered, even though it may have been offered.

It's a philosophical difference rooted, I believe, in the deeper question of to what extent an individual is responsible for his or her responses to other people.



To: Lane3 who wrote (73152)8/24/2003 8:09:33 PM
From: epicure  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
Very nice distinction.
Insults that don't hurt the person they are supposed to hurt are simply insults that didn't work- they aren't "not insults."

That's like saying speech that doesn't make sense isn't speech, simply because it isn't understood. Of course speech is speech, even if it doesn't work out the way the speaker intends. Being incompetent or impotent doesn't negate action (it simply means one is incompetent or impotent).