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To: Mannie who wrote (26255)8/24/2003 7:13:43 PM
From: Mannie  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 89467
 
Sunday, August 24, 2003

P-I Focus: Declare harvest of old-growth forests
off-limits and move on

By MIKE DOMBECK and JACK WARD THOMAS
Guest Columnists

We write as former chiefs of the U.S. Forest Service with combined experience of more than a
half-century dealing with national forest issues. For three decades, an increasingly acrimonious
debate over old-growth forests has raged. It is time to declare old growth off-limits to logging and
move on. Why?

First, although no one knows exactly how much old growth remains, what's left is but a small
fraction of what once was and will ever be again. And what remains did not survive by accident.
Most remaining old-growth stands occur in rugged terrain where the economic and environmental
costs are simply too high.

Second, scientists increasingly appreciate old-growth forests as reservoirs of biodiversity with
associated "banks" of genetic material. Most stands are protected as habitat for threatened or
endangered (and associated) species -- to meet the purpose of the Endangered Species Act "... to
provide a means whereby the ecosystems upon which endangered species and threatened species
depend may be conserved. ..." It's time to stop fighting over what little old growth remains
unprotected.

Third, a large and growing number of people want old-growth forests preserved for posterity.
Values associated with "beauty," "spirituality" or "connection with the past" are expressed in other
terms applied to old growth such as "ancient" or "cathedral" forests. These values are as real as
those determined for commodities in the marketplace and clearly exceed the values as timber.

Fourth, if the past is prologue, harvest of old growth will be publicly resisted in sequential and
predictable steps -- appeals, legal actions, protests and, in the end, civil disobedience. In the Pacific
Northwest, where most old growth remains, costs of making old-growth timber sales are
disproportionately high with very low chance of ultimate success given environmental constraints
and process requirements. Ten-year-old plans that envisioned some old-growth harvest have been
overcome by events -- legal, political, social, scientific and economic.

Fifth, few sawmills remain in business that can process large old-growth logs. The mills that have
survived are geared to efficiently process smaller second-growth trees.

Sixth, and most important, the never-ending fight is draining time, money, energy and political
capital needed to address more pressing problems.

Forest management should focus on restoring forest health and reducing fire risk, initially in areas
where risk to human life and property are greatest -- the so-called wildland/urban interface. Then,
appropriate management practices should be strategically targeted in the right places and at the right
scales across the landscape. The knowledge gained in the wildland/urban interface should then set
the course for any expanded management actions. That's a prescription that draws on pragmatic
combinations of economic need, political reality and the application of adaptive management based
on research and experience.

Meanwhile, younger trees -- some quite large -- now inhabit old-growth stands as a result of a
century of fire suppression that prevented periodic low-intensity ground fires that naturally thin the
forests. Such trees provide "ladder fuels" that can carry fire into the crowns of old-growth trees.
These are the trees that should be thinned and harvested to reduce the potential fire mortality of the
old-growth trees. Redwood and sequoia stands in northern California are particularly vulnerable.

Those who have won the past fights to protect old growth should now support forest management
-- including thinning -- to address forest health problems, reduce susceptibility to fire and provide a
sustainable supply of wood in the spirit of the multiple-use mandate. As our demands for wood
increase, is it ethical to import more timber from nations with weaker environmental protections and
less technical capabilities and ignore our own sources of supply? We think not.

Several decades ago, the Forest Service struggled to meet targets to harvest more than 10 billion
board feet a year from the national forests. Most now agree that was unsustainable. Today,
circumstances have reduced harvest levels to below 2 billion board feet a year -- considerably below
what could be sustained while meeting multiple-use mandates.

It is time to move beyond the "board feet of timber debate." The performance standard should be
"acres treated" based on state-of-the-art science and in compliance with the law. In the spirit of
multiple use, all applicable values should come into play, including cultural/archaeological, water,
timber, biodiversity, recreation, fish and wildlife habitat, wilderness, non-timber forest products
and grazing. The work of improving forest health and restoring watersheds on national forests has
great potential to provide jobs and economic opportunities to many of the same communities caught
up in the "cut vs. no-cut" battles of the past.

Should we protect remaining old growth? We say yes. In turn, should we expect agreement on the
mandate of the Organic Administration Act of 1987 that states: "No national forest shall be
established except to protect the forest within the boundaries, or for the purpose of securing
favorable conditions of water flows, and to furnish a continuous supply of timber for the use and
necessities of the citizens of the United States." Again, we answer yes.

A saying common in India comes to mind. "When elephants fight only the grass suffers." Rural
communities, and the forests, have suffered enough from strife too long sustained and management
too long delayed. It is time to move on. Recognizing that harvest of old growth from the national
forests should come to an end is a good start.

Mike Dombeck is professor of global environmental management at the
University of Wisconsin-Stevens Point. Jack Ward Thomas is professor
of wildlife biology at the University of Montana.

seattlepi.nwsource.com



To: Mannie who wrote (26255)8/24/2003 7:33:19 PM
From: Rick Faurot  Respond to of 89467
 
This writer apparently thinks Bush is Rumsfeld's boss when actually the reverse is true.

It's no surprise the military brass in Iraq are toeing the company line very very carefully. They know if they don't they'll be relieved and forced into retirement faster than you can say Boo.



To: Mannie who wrote (26255)8/24/2003 8:08:19 PM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 89467
 
Other nations hesitate about sending peacekeepers because of concerns about a growing guerrilla war.

By Howard LaFranchi | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor

WASHINGTON – Whether the American request for more international involvement in Iraq is granted is seen to hinge on US willingness to give up some measure of control in postwar operations to the United Nations. Yet for countries that may send troops to Iraq, the question of a broader UN mandate is not the only qualm holding them up.

Although before the war countries balked at what they believed would be opening the door to a muscle-flexing America, now concerns are growing that the postwar stage is turning into the beginning of a guerrilla war with global terrorists. Signs are multiplying that anyone associated with the occupation will be targeted, as last week's bombing of the UN building in Baghdad and Saturday's deadly attack on British forces in Basra suggest. With this in mind, countries are reluctant to sign on to something that is still seen too much as America's war and not enough of a campaign to help Iraqis.

"People feel Iraq is a mess that could still go either way, and that explains to a great extent the reluctance to send soldiers," says Radwan Masmoudi, president of the Center for the Study of Islam and Democracy in Washington.

"Iraq could be the best country in the Middle East, with a democracy that gives its citizens a sense of progress, or it could be the worst country, with more violence, terrorism, and increasing anarchy," says Mr. Masmoudi.

President Bush said Friday that the US would submit a new resolution to the UN Security Council to encourage more countries to provide security forces in Iraq. At the same time, UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan said he thought a formula could be found to satisfy both the US insistence on maintaining military control, and other countries' desire to go in under a UN mandate.

Still, he warned that some measure of "not just burden-sharing, but also sharing decisions and responsibilities" would be necessary for a resolution to pass.

The US appears most interested in persuading one or more countries with significant peacekeeping experience and Muslim populations - Turkey, Pakistan, India - to give a brotherly Muslim face to foreign forces in Iraq. But doubts about how far the US will be willing to go to meet other countries' concerns have many of them sitting on the fence, other experts say.

"There's a kind of wait-and-see attitude right now among countries that otherwise might go in," says Fawaz Gerges, a Middle East expert at Sarah Lawrence College in Bronxville, N.Y.

Continued high domestic opposition to the "American occupation" means countries want to make sure that if they did send troops to Iraq, it would be with "international legitimacy," he says. Most Middle East leaders believe "the worst is still to come" in Iraq, he says, and they want a clearer idea of how the US is going to respond to deepening adversity.

More than anything else, Arabs and Muslims want to see Iraq more quickly turned over to Iraqis, Mr. Gerges says. He says countries also want a clearer picture of what benefits they would derive.

Gerges believes that, other than Iran and Syria, the countries in the region genuinely want "the American project" to succeed - much more so than chaos and growing Islamic extremism. But he adds they also want assurances, "that if Iraq's rebuilding succeeds, Washington will not follow the administration hard-liners' zeal to topple the existing order in the Middle East."

The widespread feeling in the region is not so much that the UN is the tarnish-free answer to Iraq's problems, analysts say, but that its motives in any case are less suspect than those of the US.

"It's not that there is an enthusiasm to see the UN in charge. People don't really trust the UN, either," says Masmoudi. Rather, "they want to see a legitimate government and the Iraqis in charge of their own country."

The depth of domestic opposition to involvement in Iraq is exemplified by Pakistan, where last week Islamic clerics associated with six parliamentary Islamic parties issued a fatwa, or edict, against sending any troops to work under the US occupation. Pakistani officials say their government's action will not be based on pressure from opposition political parties, but rather on principles Pakistan has followed over more than 40 years of contributing to peacekeeping forces. "We are not looking for an excuse not to contribute troops, but we are looking for an international mandate," says Mohammad Sadiq, Pakistan's acting ambassador in Washington.

A relatively new attitude is also emerging in Europe: that the predicament of the US occupation of Iraq requires something more nuanced than mere opposition. Countries such as France and Germany now consider the US as "trapped," and that its failure there would not be in the world's interest. At the same time, there is sneaking anxiety that Iraq is only the beginning of a wider and longer civilizational war.

"It seems to be dawning on people that Iraq, instead of the end of something, is only the beginning of a very long global struggle between Western modernity and a more traditional identity," says Philippe Moreau Defarges, a senior fellow at the French Institute for International Relations in Paris. "But in Europe, people are just now digesting that, so what action to take about it remains up in the air."

csmonitor.com