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To: TimF who wrote (112808)	8/26/2003 1:03:40 AM
From: marcos	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Popular does mean popular ... fact remains that a decision arrived at by broad based democratic input will be seen as having greater legitimacy than will some Diktat cooked up in the back rooms of a single national capital ... you can argue absolute right and wrong all day, it doesn't matter, what matters is what works, and what does not work .... spitting in the faces of the independent democracies with the bullying and bribery with which they tried to enforce their 'yer with us or yer agin us' rule, this doesn't seem to be working so great at the moment .... reason it's not working so great lies in human thought process, and involves the same impulse that drove us to develop democratic principles over the last few dozen centuries, it is the impulse that says, those buggers aren't gonna tell me what to do when i have no voice in the decision It is truly amazing how many US nationals speak as if they felt they had a voice in the process .... really this does come across as delusionary in many cases, i suppose it's because they voted for this particular admin and haven't yet owned up to the mistake, but it seems odd .... there are probably three times as many US nationals strongly opposed to the neocons' act all the way through the Iraq war marketing as there are canadians total Do you care to guess of what the following is a definition? - '1) primacy of the group, toward which one has duties superior to every right, whether universal or individual; 2) the belief that one's group is a victim, a sentiment which justifies any action against the group'e enemies, internal as well as external; 3) dread of the group's decadence under the corrosive effect of individualism and cosmopolitan liberalism; 4) closer integration of the community within a brotherhood (fascio) whose unity and purity are forged by common conviction, if possible, or by exclusionary violence if necessary; 5) an enhanced sense of identity and belonging, in which the grandeur of the group reinforces individual self-esteem; 6) authority of natural leaders (always male)throughout society, culminating in a national chieftan who alone is capable of incarnating the group's destiny; 7) the beauty of violence and of will, when they are devoted to the group's success in a Darwinian struggle.'