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Politics : WHO IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT IN 2004 -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Raymond Duray who wrote (4300)8/26/2003 6:11:11 AM
From: stockman_scott  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 10965
 
Eyes on the White House, Kerry Keeps Focus on Vietnam

By DAVID M. HALBFINGER
The New York Times
August 26, 2003

SAN ANTONIO - As he criticized the Bush administration's handling of the war in Iraq, Senator John Kerry assured thousands of fellow V.F.W. members today that should he become commander in chief, "I won't just bring to that profound responsibility the perspective of sitting in the situation room ? I'll also bring the perspective of someone who's fought on the front lines."

Next week, when he formally announces his presidential campaign in Charleston, S.C., Mr. Kerry will stand in front of a World War II aircraft carrier that was used in Vietnam and beside crew members from his tour of duty as a patrol boat officer in the Mekong Delta, where he won the Silver Star, the Bronze Star and three Purple Hearts.

Wherever Senator Kerry goes these days, he talks about his war record. In doing so, Mr. Kerry is identifying his campaign with his service in Vietnam more closely than others who have run, like Senator John McCain and former Vice President Al Gore. So far, he has skirted the controversies that surrounded that war, which he fought in and then marched against, as he uses it to present himself as a battle-hardened Democrat who can handle the national security challenges that each party believes will be central to next year's election. He is also seeking to show that he can withstand the kinds of attacks that Republicans have successfully made on Democrats in past elections over issues of national security.

Mr. Kerry's advisers say he is still introducing himself to the countless voters who do not remember him from 1971, when he wore his ribbons on his Navy fatigues and testified against the war on television, instantly becoming a national celebrity. They say it is an obvious way for him to reach out to veterans, a large constituency on whose behalf he has worked for many years in the Senate. And they say his constant recitation of his wartime experience is only natural in the world after Sept. 11, where national security has become a threshold issue and where some say the problems and perils of rebuilding Iraq are reminiscent of the quagmire that Vietnam became.

Above all, though, his allies are convinced that Mr. Kerry's wartime record will inoculate him against Republican attacks like those that depicted Michael S. Dukakis, his boss when Mr. Kerry was lieutenant governor of Massachusetts, as weak on national security.

"Karl Rove will dismember every Democratic candidate based on their record of service," Henry G. Cisneros, the former San Antonio mayor and cabinet secretary, said today at a breakfast with Mr. Kerry's local supporters. "He'll say they're not tough enough. They cannot do that to Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts."

Similarly, Chris Lehane, an adviser to the Kerry campaign, said that its Internet traffic had spiked in April after Mr. Kerry defended his right to criticize the Bush administration by saying he had "fought for and bled for" the right to speak out.

"I think Democrats relish and revel in the idea that they all have a candidate who has the military background that John McCain has, who can then take it to Bush ? that he can directly challenge Bush, Cheney and the rest of the Republican gang who think they have sole and exclusive authority over patriotism."

Yet dwelling on one's war record carries with it potential pitfalls, as Senator McCain himself warned this year. "I think Americans want modesty," he told U.S. News & World Report in March, "and if it appears as if you're trying to use some past accomplishment, particularly one in combat, to further your own political ambitions, it's a little dangerous because the whole reason for your serving in the military is to ensure the safety and future of others and not yourself."

Another Vietnam veteran now in the Senate, Chuck Hagel, Republican of Nebraska, echoed that advice. "It's better not to talk too much about your military record," Mr. Hagel said today. "You should probably play that experience down to some extent ? not run away from it, but don't talk too much about it. The media will draw the comparisons and distinctions anyway."

But former Senator Max Cleland, the Georgia Democrat and wounded Vietnam veteran, argued that the country needed Mr. Kerry's experience. "In an era when we have pretenders who say `Bring them on' and all that stuff, you need a person who understands war," Mr. Cleland said. "John's been there, and he has a few holes in his T-shirt to prove it."

Far from merely immunizing himself to attack, Mr. Kerry appears to be using his own record to highlight the shortcomings of his opponents in the Democratic primary, none of whom saw combat.

In a brief interview today, he stopped short of saying military or wartime service should be a prerequisite for the presidency, offering that a senator like Joseph R. Biden Jr., Democrat of Delaware, had he run for president, would have been qualified by virtue of his "broad foreign policy experience."

"But," Mr. Kerry added, apparently alluding to his rivals, "measured against people who have no experience, or very little of it, it's important."

He also said that his Vietnam experience was of special relevance in watching the rebuilding effort under way in Iraq: "Carrying a gun in a hostile territory, getting shot at from both sides? You bet it brings a perspective. Trying to distinguish between friend and foe? Knowing the difficulty of winning hearts and minds? That adds a whole other experience."

While Senator McCain's war record was widely known when he made his own presidential bid in 2000, it was not the center of his campaign, said Gary C. Jacobson, a political science professor at the University of California at San Diego. "McCain's strategy, that he was the reformist, was the horse he was riding, it wasn't his Vietnam service," Mr. Jacobson said.

And 2000 was a vastly different context, he added; "if he were running now, we probably would hear more about his war record than we did then."

The difference is Sept. 11, said Bob Kerrey, the former Nebraska senator who also fought in Vietnam, and whose battlefield experience came back to haunt him when accusations arose that his team of Navy Seals knowingly killed civilians in a 1969 raid in Vietnam.

"Democrats understand that unlike in '96 or 2000 or even in '92, one of the things Americans are looking at is how well can you do the job of commander in chief," Mr. Kerrey said today from New York. "It's become a part of the assessment process. It wasn't there before. I think Bill Clinton would've faced a much different opponent in George Bush in 1992 if the U.S. had been attacked by terrorists even in the fall of '89. He would've had to prove he could be a better commander in chief."

An open question is just how Mr. Kerry's role in opposing the war will play, more than three decades later. Though Senator Kerry says he is confident that "most people have come to the conclusion that the war was a mistake," he said the attention to the protest movement could rekindle a debate that has never entirely died out.

"But he's got credibility on both sides of the argument," Mr. Kerrey said, for having fought despite his opposing the war.

It is also possible that that seemingly contradictory stance might be used against Senator Kerry, if only to foreshadow a recurring criticism of him as a senator: that he likes to straddle both sides of an issue.

But Douglas Brinkley, the historian and author of a forthcoming biography of Senator Kerry, said Republicans would be unwise to attack him on that ground. "As soon as you're arguing about John Kerry's war record, you're on his turf," Mr. Brinkley said.

"When you get into the Kerry story, the fact that they were sending 50-foot aluminum boats up canals along the Cambodian border to get shot at, it's very similar to Iraq, where every other day, somebody gets picked off," he said. "Clearly we were the invader in a very foreign culture, and we had no real exit strategy except Vietnamization. If our exit strategy from Iraq is Iraqization ? here, Kerry, who knows what it's like to be shot up in a war that Americans forgot about, is a pretty good messenger to talk about the arrogance of power."



To: Raymond Duray who wrote (4300)8/26/2003 8:53:29 AM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 10965
 
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To: Raymond Duray who wrote (4300)8/26/2003 9:21:42 AM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 10965
 
Clark set to enter 2004 race

hoypuhloy.blogspot.com

Sunday, August 24, 2003

<<...The summer rumor mill is working overtime with all kinds of fantasy 2004 ticket predictions and no one's name has popped up more on those lists then charismatic southerner General Wesley Clark's. The frequent CNN military analyst, former 4-star general and NATO Supreme Allied Commander is often listed as the Dem's dream VP. The reality is that Clark is poised to announce his bid for the top spot.

No less than Democratic get-out-the-vote guru Donna Brazile, made a bit of a "pre-announcement" the other day. Given her vast connections, Brazile no doubt speaks with informed speculation. Particularly given that Clark has sought advice from Brazile.

Further setting the table for a Clark bid, Clark himself ratcheted up his critique of President Bush's bungling of Iraq and Afghanistan in past few days. Clark also stepped down as an analyst for CNN - further raising the stakes. Clark reportedly privately called supporters of his candidacy and told them to "crank it up."

Clark has seen a groundswell of support from regular everyday Americans. But, of course, Clark is not short on big time, connected friends. In fact, some report that the vaunted Clinton fund-raising machine will leap into action to assist the General's campaign.

It now appears that the former Rhodes Scholar, (he studied economics at Oxford) who finished first in his class at Westpoint, is about to get a big boost from more Democratic heavyweights. The scuttlebutt and corner whispering for the last few days at one of my favorite Capitol Hill watering holes has been on the prospect of high-profile Congressional Dems Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden openly endorsing Clark when he announces. (Brazile predicts the announcement by the end of this month, but I think its more likely Clark will announce right after Labor Day since so many Americans are on vacation in Aug.). I'd typically dismiss this bar talk as summer shenanigans and Hill interns attempting to sound like they know something, but signs are there that these or at least similar high profile endorsements are in the offing.

Today this report was published that Clark will announce "backed by powerful members of the United States Congress." Its no secret that Pelosi has reached out to Clark. (Yes, Pelosi endorsed Gep in May, but this is DC where things change when necessary!!). And, Biden has now made it official that he will not run for the top spot in 2004 and has long been a tough military advocate and critic of how Bush is handling Iraq, so a Biden push for Clark shouldn't come as a surprise. (Biden's endorsement will no doubt be seen as angling for the VP nod from Clark.)

With growing concerns over this mishandling of Iraq, the bungling of Afghanistan, Bush's dropping the ball on finding Bin Laden, letting the Taliban reform, and a strong yearning for true leadership in the war on terror, Clark will be a force. Clark will speak credibly on the economy as well. (pointing to all the unemployed Americans won't be too hard anyway!) This month's Esquire - read by all those coveted Nascar Dads, young professionals, and thirty-something "guy's guys" - anoints Clark as the man who can beat Bush.

Clark may not finish at the top or even high in the NH and Iowa primaries, where there are strong anti-war activist networks who will be wary of voting for a former General. But, Clark doesn't need to win NH or Iowa. As a political novice, expectations will be low to start, but you can take it to the bank that he'll be among or at the top on Super Tuesday when a broader spectrum of Democratic supporters will go to the polls. Supporters in his native Little Rock are lobbying for Clark's home state of Arkansas to move up its primary to give Clark an early victory to build momentum. And, when the Big Dog officially comes out for Clark most of the traditional Democratic base will coalesce into a formidable field army for the General. Clark will also pull in droves of swing-voters, independents, and significant numbers of "McCain Republicans." Bush's dirt machine led by Karl Rove will try to sling mud at Clark, but Bush's dwindling numbers will expose the dirty tricks as desperate acts.

You'll see Clark run a positive campaign in the primary built on his integrity and credibility on attacking Bush on security and foreign affairs by offering real alternatives and solutions. Clark will not slice up his opponents like the knife fights between Lieberman vs. rest of the field and Kerry vs. Dean. And, once he knocks them out of the race, don't be surprised if Clark doesn't tap John Edwards and Dick Gephardt for posts in his shadow cabinet, Attorney General and Labor respectively. Bob Graham of Florida is a possible Homeland Security chief, but he will likely run and win a third term in the Senate. Former Clinton UN Ambassador Richard Holbrooke is a possible Secretary of State, or possibly even George Mitchell. And, former Clinton DOD chief William Cohen could resurface as an NSC advisor for Clark.

Now, here's my big prediction...Clark will tap fellow southerner Mary Landrieu to be his running mate! The Louisiana Senator, is a strong woman with military and foreign policy credentials and southern charm to make this one heck of a 1-2 punch. And, she proved she can beat the Bush/Rove spin machine. Tell me that doesn't make sense. Mark it down that you heard it here first! (ok, maybe second or third - but early for sure!!)

Of course, if he doesn't run, Clark will make one heck of a VP candidate for someone...>>

// posted by Ben @ 8/24/2003 06:26:35 PM



To: Raymond Duray who wrote (4300)8/26/2003 11:33:40 AM
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To: Raymond Duray who wrote (4300)8/26/2003 11:51:37 AM
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To: Raymond Duray who wrote (4300)8/26/2003 12:24:42 PM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 10965
 
Clark Alleges White House Pushed CNN to Fire Him

foxnews.com

Tuesday, August 26, 2003

WASHINGTON — The White House pressured CNN to fire former military analyst Gen. Wesley Clark (search), the retired Army chief told a Phoenix radio station on Monday.

"The White House actually back in February apparently tried to get me knocked off CNN and they wanted to do this because they were afraid that I would raise issues with their conduct of the war," Clark told Newsradio 620 KTAR. "Apparently they called CNN. I don't have all the proof on this because they didn't call me. I've only heard rumors about it."

Clark was one of cable network CNN’s military analysts and commentators during the Iraq war. Frequently named as a possible presidential candidate, Clark has not said whether he is interested in seeking the Democratic nomination. But, in his comments on the "Drive Home With Preston Westmoreland Show," Clark indicated that he is debating a bid.

"I had a very clear understanding with CNN that if I ever decided to go forward in considering becoming a political candidate that I would at that point, leave CNN. That's what I did in June," he said.

Grassroots organizations have encouraged the former NATO (search) commander to make a run. The DraftWesleyClark.com group commissioned a Zogby poll in which those surveyed were asked to select a candidate based on his bio without knowing the candidate's name.

The poll, released Monday, showed Clark with 49 percent support in the "Blind Bio" survey compared to 40 percent for President Bush.

Matched up against six of the nine Democratic candidates, Clark polled in first place. That number dropped to fifth place among likely Democratic primary voters, however, when the candidates were named.

Clark backers still found this data encouraging, noting that he earned high marks "despite his low name recognition, and the fact that he has not spent a dime" on campaigning.

Clark, who is holding his decision close to the vest, told the radio station: "I still am not a candidate. I'm not affiliated with the party, and I haven't raised a penny of political money."

Clark served as NATO's supreme allied commander and as commander in chief of the U.S. European Command between 1997 and 2000. In 1999, he led Operation Allied Force, NATO's military action in Kosovo (search).

Insisting on the accuracy of his military analysis of the Iraq War, Clark said, "No one ever complained about my analysis being partisan except for [House Majority Leader] Tom DeLay and he's hardly an unbiased source," Clark told KTAR.

"I was anything but biased. I was 100 percent objective. I called it right and I stand by the results," he said.



To: Raymond Duray who wrote (4300)8/26/2003 2:46:52 PM
From: stockman_scott  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 10965
 
Conservatives blame 9/11 on Clinton. But it was Bush Republicans who made deals with terrorists -- while Clinton's team took concrete steps to protect Americans.

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To: Raymond Duray who wrote (4300)8/26/2003 7:46:38 PM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 10965
 
Josh Marshall's Talking Points Memo

talkingpointsmemo.com

August 25th, 2003 -- 10:24 PM EDT

A few nights ago, over drinks, a friend asked me what the rationale for a Clark candidacy would be. Not the substantive rationale, mind you, but the political one. How could he win? What point would his entry into the race have at this point, and so forth?

The political rationale is, I think, straightforward and strong.

Here's how I'd describe it.

Howard Dean is now by many measures the front-runner in the Democratic primary campaign. Though he lags in the national polls, he's at least in the hunt in both Iowa and New Hampshire. He's raising money at a faster clip than any of the other candidates. And he's clearly generated the most excitement.

But Dean is an insurgent candidate, often campaigning explicitly against Washington and the party establishment. By many measures he's campaigning to various left-leaning elements in the Democratic party base -- notwithstanding his previous record as a fairly centrist governor of Vermont. I say this all not with any judgment attached, just as a description of the developments in the race, as nearly I can ascertain them.

Now, by the normal laws of political gravitation, Dean's sustained surge should have forced a coalescence around one of the several more-centrist-minded establishment candidates -- Kerry, Gephardt, Edwards, Lieberman. With Dean catching fire, those who aren't comfortable with his candidacy should be getting behind one candidate in order to beat him. But that clearly has not happened.

In some ways this is a more striking development than Dean's rise itself.

Now, why hasn't that coalescence taken place? I think the answer is elementary. None of the current candidates has passed the audition for the job. Lieberman's campaign is generally believed to be moribund (and I like the guy). Edwards has gone absolutely nowhere. Gephardt has bet everything on getting the support of organized labor. But if he gets it, it'll basically be a mercy ... well, I don't want to be off-color. But, you know what I mean. Kerry is basically the establishment front-runner at the moment. But it's an extremely anemic frontrunnerdom. He's basically the front-runner by default because all the other potential frontrunners who haven't caught fire are doing even worse than he is.

What this all tells me is that there is a vacuum with a lot of political forces pushing to fill it. And yet none of the current candidates has been capable of becoming the vehicle for those forces. I know these are some convoluted metaphors. But I trust my meaning is relatively clear.

Now, there are all sorts of reasons why late-entering, draft-so-and-so type candidacies never end up winning. But the vacuum I've just described is one Clark could potentially fill. At least he could get in the game and give it his best shot.

Clark's other potential strength is that he combines outsider status and a thorough critique of the president, with impeccable national security credentials and domestic policy positions with a seemingly broad appeal.

-- Josh Marshall



To: Raymond Duray who wrote (4300)8/26/2003 8:05:53 PM
From: stockman_scott  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 10965
 
There is lots of speculation about what Clark may actually end up doing...Here's something I just picked up off a blog...

dailykos.com

<<...Reports are coming in from Seattle -- anywhere from 8-15K rallying for Dean on Sunday night.

OK, Seattle ain't that big, and it's how long before Washington's primary? Is there a precedent for this?

Adam in MA - I'm with you -- I saw Clark on Face the Nation this morning, and Clark is continuing to be coy. It makes perfect sense. Clark gets into the race with Dean, the clear front-runner, who has all the money, momentum, and campaign experience. Dean welds shut the only hole in his credentials (an alleged lack of nat'l security exp.)

No other candidate would beat that team.

Posted by Kuz at August 24, 2003 08:24 PM...>>