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To: ChinuSFO who wrote (7659)	8/26/2003 9:40:35 AM
From: lorne	Respond to of 8683

chino. You said..." Good for you you learnt. I have lived it. Isn't that a big difference? "..... Yes I did take the trouble of learning new things...May I suggest that you do the same thing. You said...." I have lived it. Isn't that a big difference? "..... Yes it is a big difference, You believe that you are correct because perhaps that is what you have been taught from birth and do not know any better. I on the other hand chose to learn new things and not assume anymore that all the things that I have been taught are the truth. In one of the articles ...that I was kind enough to share with you :-).... it stated how history had been altered so that those who actually grew up with or " lived it " did not really know the truth...they believed what they had been taught. And why should they not believe what they have been taught? IMO the big problem with people like you ....and there are many.... is that you are not capable of reasoning with an open mind or you simply don't want to. Muslims crazies are like that as their minds are completely controlled by the rules of their religion. That's how islam leaders are able to convince young people to kill themselves and to murder as many innocent people as possible as a way to get to paradise where they will be rewarded by allah for murder...Now ask yourself isn't this stupid? If you think it's stupid then ask yourself if there might be a few other things within islam that are stupid ? IMO a closed mind can be a costly thing, a closed mind is easy to control, an uneducated mind is an easy thing to control.

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (7659)	8/26/2003 9:48:38 AM
From: lorne	Respond to of 8683

chino. You said....." Good for you you learnt. I have lived it. Isn't that a big difference? "..... When you say " Good for you you learnt ".... Does this mean you agree with the information I posted to you? I mean after all you are not disputing the information you are saying that it is a good that I have learned these things which you say you have lived. So what the heck are you arguing about if you agree with me...Maybe you just like to argue...that's ok, for some folks it's a way of life.

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (7659)	8/26/2003 10:03:36 PM
From: lorne	Respond to of 8683

Detonators found on track after bombs kill 46 August 26, 2003 smh.com.au Indian authorities have found nine detonators on a rail track near Mumbai just hours after two bombs exploded in the city, killing at least 46 people. Railway police say several sleepers also had been removed and used to block the tracks on a line being used by millions of pilgrims headed to a major Hindu festival. A trainload of pilgrims was halted after the detonators were found. Police said two car bombs killed at least 46 people in the heart of India's financial capital, one ripping through a congested bullion market and a second exploding near a popular tourist attraction, police said. It was not immediately clear who was responsible for the coordinated bomb attacks which also wounded 137 people. But Indian Deputy Prime Minister Lal Krishna Advani said similar attacks in the past had been carried out by the outlawed Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI), acting alongside the Pakistan-based Kashmiri militant group Lashkar e-Taiba. Pakistan, accused by India of harbouring Muslim radicals who stage attacks on its territory, condemned the blasts as "acts of terrorism". They coincided with a thaw in relations between the nuclear-armed rivals. "There were legs and hands lying on top and inside my taxi. I had a miraculous escape," said taxi driver Lal Sahib Singh, whose clothes were soaked in blood. He had been driving past the bullion market when the bomb there exploded. Most deaths were at the bullion market, which is near a Hindu temple. A second bomb exploded near the city's main tourist attraction, the Gateway of India, a huge waterfront archway built by India's British colonial rulers to commemorate the visit by King George V and Queen Mary in 1911. State health minister Digvijay Khanvilkar told Reuters 46 people had been killed and 137 were wounded. Police said the bombs had been planted in taxis. "There were hands and legs flying in the air, blood everywhere," said Anil Punjabi, whose jewellery shop was next to the bullion market. "I saw some bodies were thrown 10 to 15 feet (three to five metres) away from the blast site." The attack was the worst in Mumbai since 1993 when a series of bomb blasts killed at least 260 people. Those attacks were seen as retaliation for deaths of minority Muslim following Hindu-Muslim riots. Indian police have long feared a similar reaction following riots in the western state of Gujarat in 2002 in which at least 1,000 people, mostly Muslims, died. The Mumbai blasts follow an easing in tension between Pakistan and India, which came close to war last year following a December 2001 attack on India's federal parliament. India blamed that and other attacks on Pakistan-based militants fighting Indian rule in Kashmir, its only Muslim-majority state. Pakistan denied involvement. In Islamabad, Pakistan Foreign Ministry spokesman Masood Khan described the Mumbai blasts as "acts of terrorism". But Pakistan's stock market closed down nearly one per cent on concerns the blasts may disrupt the thaw in India-Pakistan ties. The first bomb exploded around 1pm (1730 AEST Monday) in the Jhaveri Bazaar, near the Mumbadevi Temple, followed within minutes by the blast at the Gateway of India. In both places, blood and broken glass lay on the ground. Mumbai has been hit by a series of bomb attacks in recent months. Three people died in December when a bomb exploded on a bus; 12 were killed in March by a bomb on a rush-hour train and in July, two people were killed in a fresh bomb attack on a bus. The 1993 bombings followed Hindu-Muslim riots triggered by the destruction by Hindu zealots of a 16th century mosque in the northern town of Ayodhya. Hindu hardliners say the mosque was built on the site of a Hindu temple. Since then, Ayodhya has been a lightning rod for tension.