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To: Neocon who wrote (112860)	8/26/2003 12:40:14 PM
From: Jacob Snyder	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

<Jerry Falwell is not leading attacks on the Empire State Building, and Pat Robertson is not training terrorists in Utah.> They do, however, support giving billions/year to Israel, and selling them the helicopter gunships used routinely to rocket crowded Gaza streets. They do support our policy of propping up Afghan warlords, like Dostum, who massacre POWs and routinely kill and torture their political opponents. Terrorism is terrorism, whether State-supported or not. Actually, State-supported terrorism is worse, because it usually has more fire-power, so lots more get killed. Our Constitution's reach stops at our formal political borders, and does not extend to all the places our power is exercised. It does not extend to our torture center at Bagram Air Base, our concentration camp at Guantanamo, or to any of the motley collection of thugs, Kings, dictators, and Emirs we prop up all over the planet. What "American values" have General Dostum and the Emir of Kuwait assimilated? They seem to have assimilated these good American values: "You can get much further with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone." - Al Capone

To: Neocon who wrote (112860)	8/27/2003 3:27:09 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

Re: Rather larger differences than that. After all, Jerry Falwell is not leading attacks on the Empire State Building, and Pat Robertson is not training terrorists in Utah. Yes, there are a few militia types that think of themselves in religious terms, but not enough to constitute a large- scale domestic threat. REALLY? And what of the anthrax scare??? Any "ugly Arab" suspect so far? Do you see now why "Affirmative Action" is so important for you Yanks? You keep lashing out at it but think of the wonders Affirmative Action would have achieved in that anthrax crisis that freaked out America about two years ago.... If Affirmative Action had been enforced in your biowarfare facilities throughout the country it'd have been so easier for your FBI crooks to FRAME some black mad scientist and tell Americans: "Look, yet another Muslim (convert) darkey who hates America and doesn't flinch from bioterror!" But no.... your biowarfare labs are swarming with Jewish and white freaks only --hence the MESS you're in right now. FBI fixers can't frame a n*gger --like in the DC-sniper case-- and two years later, America's still clueless.... Time for you freaks to increase your minority quotas in biowarfare labs, isn't it? Gus