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To: marcher who wrote (13286)8/27/2003 1:26:08 AM
From: GraceZRead Replies (2) | Respond to of 306849
 
All this concern about proper and formal manner smacks of elitism--ways to discriminate between them and us

You don't think that people will judge you and withhold opportunities from you because of an inability to communicate with the proper use of English? This is just an online chat board, but the real world makes requirements which are frequently far more harsh, it is not more accommodating but less. If school doesn't prepare you for that world then who will?

The only reason I mentioned his grammar error was because he was trying to make a point about the public schools not being in decline. It was funny and ironic that he included such an error in that sentence even though most of his posts contain numerous grammatical errors.

I've had my own grammar corrected on SI, I find it is an act of kindness on the part of someone to correct another person's grammar contrary to popular belief that only an elitist snob would do such a thing. You certainly don't get to be a better writer by having people make allowances for your bad prose.

I can only guess that you are a right-wing fiscal conservative, trying to convince others not to pay (any) taxes for the education of the untouchables.

I'm a registered Democrat, for your information, as well as a fiscal conservative (a rare mix) who grew up extremely poor (one of the untouchables you refer to) who lives rather modestly.

The constant dollar amount of money spent on education is up 4 fold from when I attended grammar school starting in 1960. If you are happy with the quality of the schools then why all the fuss with people asking for more tax money to relieve the deplorable condition of them?

deeply disagree with tactics that harm those with the least in order to save bucks for those with the most. I suspect that this is the deeper agenda--cut funding for public education so taxes go down.

I simply want to see my tax dollars spent on education actually end up educating someone. Almost all the increases in spending have been spent on bloated administration and non-educational expenses. Here in Maryland we spend almost the national record, yet people are afraid to send their kids to a lot of the schools and test scores remain below the national average.

I've studied the research objectively and am certain that educational practice in the public classrooms of California is much better now than ever.

Perhaps the educational practices are better, they certainly do more with less than a lot of other states. But what are the statistics of violent assaults in the schools? How many kids have been removed for gun violations? What percentage graduate? How often are teachers assaulted? How many rapes per year?

These are things that they hardly needed to keep statistics on when I first started school in 1960 because they were such rare events. Money isn't the problem.