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To: Wyätt Gwyön who wrote (13300)	8/27/2003 12:17:58 PM
From: GraceZ	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 306849

are you sure of this? are you relying on your own expertise or other sources? Actually I'm relying on the opinion of my next door neighbor who is a filmmaker and has been documenting the Bush family starting with George senior since the elder was VP. My neighbor has personally spend thousands of hours with both the father and the son as well as thousands of hours with the resulting footage. My neighbor isn't a Republican or even a Conservative, he is a well educated and well spoken Asian American and I have little reason to doubt what he says is true. I didn't vote for Bush. I was solidly behind Al Gore, Mrs. Gore is a client of mine. I just don't buy the media version of W any more than I bought the media version of Al Gore simply because I've had enough direct experience with the media and their distortions of the truth. If I fault Bush at all, it is that by speaking the way he does it simply feeds into the strong anti-intellectual sentiment in this country. as you might recall, recently i explained to you how to differentiate between its and it's, and between then and than. Yes, you did and I thanked you for that and I mentioned this in a subsequent post. I'm not a grammar Nazi by any means, nor is mine perfect as you so generously pointed out. I don't, as a rule, point out grammar mistakes unless it is a good friend. It just struck me as humorous that in a sentence declaring education hasn't declined, the poster made such an error. Not unlike a typo I once made on a resume where I wrote that I had graduated college with "honers". I would never argue grammar rules with you, I'm sure your corrections of my corrections are on the mark. Like I said to Fatty, it doesn't bother me that people make grammar mistakes, it bothers me that they don't care that they do. As for this being an isolated case, a "brain fart" as it were, you either are bias or you haven't been reading Fatty's posts to me. Most would have come back from my fifth grade teacher covered in red. Do you want to argue it isn't important to use coherent, complete sentences or correct verb tense? Do you want to say it isn't important to teach that in school? Or maybe it isn't important until the person is someone that doesn't hold the same political views as you do? Imagine you are fatty's freshman history teacher and the student tells you: Magna Carta is significant only if you're taking high school history. The significance of the Magna Carta has nothing to do, is disjoint from, high school history. The sentence is what one would refer to as a non sequitur. At which point, the student might respond, "Is this going to be on the test?" I'm sorry, but the problem with education isn't the amount of money spent on it, the problem is a culture whose members proclaim it is elitist to teach proper English usage, to require it. A culture where people are ignorant of fundamental aspects of their own culture and political history and are more than willing to tell you that it is not important for them to actually understand these things. They don't even know what they don't know and they don't care. And they have a name for you if you point this out. Extrapolate that to any other subject. Imagine that you are under the knife about to have brain surgery, do you want the doctor operating on you to have gotten through school without their various mistakes and errors being corrected or do you want that person to have had to jump though some fairly high hurdles on their way to a degree? I work in a business which is highly dependent on the ability to comprehend and understand the written and spoken word, it's about communication. Hey, but maybe that's just me, I'm a cranky right wing conservative (according to Marc) who doesn't want the poor to get a free education on my dollar. Ha! Maybe I'm just tried of having to teach young college educated employees the fundamentals of communication starting with how to take a phone message that includes all the pertinent information. But then, I went to school back in the old days when there weren't much to learn! I guess the study of economics, physics, chemistry, biology, calculus, trigonometry and history only appeared in the last 25 years. Most were nearly complete studies before I even got to school and a lot of the progress made since was made by people of my generation. BTW thanks for the "expletive" explanation, it makes far more sense to me than calling "there" an adverb in that particular usage.