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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (174658)	8/27/2003 5:58:42 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1578495

Ted, I agree with his first statement. Effective liberation of the Iraqis can only happen by the involvement of Iraqis. And he's also right that for a long time we supported a brutal Saddam for our own purposes. Look at the context in which he makes those statements. Everything America does is wrong. Supporting a brutal dictator was wrong, and taking out the very dictator we supported (but now regret supporting) was wrong too. Why couldn't we not support the brutal dictator AND let the UN with our able support take care of the problem? Anyone who opposes America are heroes in his mind. You're interpreting.......I don't hear him saying that. This includes the communists in Vietnam who, to this day, continue to make that place a third-world country. Look we stuck our nose into Vietnam and got it cut off. All because we believed in this theory predicated on a kid's game. And where is that theory now......in some military shredding machine. At least, in Vietnam, we were invited. This time we didn't even wait to be invited. This includes the inhumane warlords who attacked American soldiers in Mogadishu, the very soldiers sent to deliver humanitarian aid to starving Somalis. I guess I missed the part where he calls these guys heroes. This guy is a true anti-American nutjob. Even he considers the label "American" as a product of "U.S. imperial chauvinism." What a maroon. What I hear him saying is let people have their own manifest destiny without our interference. But we can't seem to do that......why not? ted

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (174658)	8/27/2003 6:12:34 PM
From: Alighieri	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1578495

This includes the communists in Vietnam who, to this day, continue to make that place a third-world country. Of course you know that the Diem regime in the south was one of the most corrupt imaginable....yet we supported it simply because the enemy of my enemy was our friend....a little like Iran during the Shah, Iraq in Saddam's earlier days, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and a host of other undemocratic nations today. Furthermore, the pretext for going to war in Vietnam was a falsehood, just as the one used to go into Iraq. Two wrongs don't make a right. This includes the inhumane warlords who attacked American soldiers in Mogadishu, the very soldiers sent to deliver humanitarian aid to starving Somalis. The ranger squad that went into that area of Mogadishu did so on intel that general Haidid was thought to be there with his lieutenants. They went there to capture or kill him, not feed him. The battle erupted because his militia chose to defend him. Al