To: Maurice Winn who wrote (705 ) 8/30/2003 7:38:25 PM From: Maurice Winn Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1070 <He confirmed that the disease killed two of the three dead within about 12 hours and that they are sure it isn't sars. The third lasted several hours longer. > It seems our chief defender against sars and other infectious diseases, Dr Tim Blackmore, had it wrong when I phoned him. If the expert warriors don't know what they are doing and lose the battle, like Dr Urbani, we are in big trouble. Here's what is in an article on page A4 or the Sunday Star Times, 31 August 2003: < Dave Campbell looked at his son Greg as they rode in the ambulance with their unconscious wife and mother and said: "It's not looking good mate". It was just after 5pm on August 20 when Dave had arrived home from work to find his wife Robyn, 56, slumped unconscious in a chair at their Abbotsford, Dunedin, hime. Only 50 minutes earlier, Robyn had been to her doctor, a visit Dave wanted her to do for days because of flu-like symptoms she couldn't shake . The doctor diagnosed a chest infection and prescribed medication but the mystery illness had progressed so rapidly from the time she picked up her prescription that she was near death. "I looked at Greg and he looked at me. He said to me, 'you know mum, she'll fight. She'll be all right', said Dave. "But I knew things weren't right". Robyn did not regain consciousness and at 9.30am the next day, life support was turned of at Dunedin Hospital, her three children and two youngest grandchildren, just months old, by her bedside. "We were told a bit earlier that she had gone. We knew that but you try to hang on for as long as you can, don't you?" said Dave. The specialists had no idea what caused Robyn's death and why she deteriorated so rapidly. The family was treated because meningitis was suspected and the babies were kept in hospital as a precaution. "We sat there all night with Robyn. Holding her hand, talking to her. I had to leave for three hours to get my head together. "All the family was there at various times. We retraced her life. One minute we were all laughing and then the next minute we were all crying". - Barry Clarke As you do. So, it looks like sars to me. Days of unshakeable flu, then deterioration, lung bleeding and death. That's what happens in sars. Until they come up with something better to say it's not sars, I'll assume it is. Robyn was obviously a kiwi battler, not given to rushing off to doctors at a touch of flu. She was a fighter, 'you know mum', so it would have taken a lot to get her very worried. Breathing problems can be quite serious and people don't necessarily know how much trouble they are in until the lights go out with loss of consciousness. The initial reports that the victims were in good health obviously referred to ongoing health problems rather than the time immediately before their deaths. Henry, give Tim a call and get it from the horse's mouth. Mqurice