To: Dennis O'Bell who wrote (113255 ) 8/28/2003 10:54:25 PM From: Jacob Snyder Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500 <If that were true, we would still be living in the dark ages, when the Church tried in vain to stop the progression of scientific knowledge.> We do still live in the Dark Ages. In the last 100 years, more people have died from government-organized violence, than in any other 100-year period of human history. By a wide margin. Find any other quantifiable measure of "dark ages", and the 20th Century was the darkest, with the 21st looking no lighter so far. Anything done in what you call the Dark Ages, is matched, and often exceeded, by recent events, from China (Cultural Revolution), Cambodia 1970s, Rwanda and Bosnia and Congo 1990s, Dresden and Hiroshima and Dachau and Auschwitz in WW2 (history will just lump them all together, seeing little difference between them). And the Churches, along with the Synagogues and Mosques and Hindu Temples, they are all currently having a resurgence of violent fundamentalism. The Enlightenment is under attack, from the Christian Zionists in Washington, from the armed Orthodox Jews seizing hilltops in Judea, from the Hindu Nationalists tearing down Mosques in India, from the Saudi-funded madrassahs all over the world. The tools of science have now been harnessed to serve the DeathWorshippers. The 9/11 attack was planned and organized, using email. An Apache gunship, a marvel of modern science, a tool for the Chosen People to hold their blood-soaked Holy Land. At Jerusalem and Ayodhya, modern scientific archeology is used to prove whose temples were there first, to justify campaigns of government-organized violence. "A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900)