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To: Joe NYC who wrote (174750)8/29/2003 3:08:01 AM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1579328
 
That's not self determination and I think you know that. What we have in Iraq is a rich benefactor remaking a country in its own image. I would be offended if Canada tried to do that to us, wouldn't you be? Besides its the farthest thing from self determination.

It depends where you are starting from and where you will likely end up. I think Iraq would benefit even from invasion of modern (post-Stalin) Soviet Union (and that's something very hard for me to say on 35th anniversary of invasion of Czechoslovakia by Soviet Union).


I think the Afghans would disagree with you.

Not at all.....he's advocating what the Iraqis, not Americans, think is best for the Iraqis. We're not about to do that but it probably would be the best thing albeit messy.

What would that be, and how can his recommendation be realized in real world?


Let me ask you........where are the Iraqis in all of this? Why are they not fighting for their freedom? Sure some are signing up for the new Iraqi army; others for the police force but for a populace that's heavily armed they have been pretty quiet through all this mess. Occasionally, an Iraqi will do something heroic or God forbid, they will even help an American soldier in trouble but mostly, they are staying out of the fracas.

Why? Because they don't 'own' it. Its not their revolution...its Bush's. Its not their self determination that is doing the trick, its Bush's. Its not their fighting that's winning the battle, its Bush's soldiers.

The Iraqis are anything if not stupid. They will continue to do squat until such time as they feel they are in control. That's how it works in the "real world" in my experience.

ted