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To: Neocon who wrote (113318)	8/29/2003 12:11:44 PM
From: Noel de Leon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

"Ron Paul is a libertarian. Most of what he says in the posted piece reflects misinformation or misunderstanding. For example, most neocons were never Troskyites. Irving Kristol, who was, briefly, in college, ceased any adherence to Trotsky while in the Army, about 50 years ago. Straussians are distinct from neocons, although there has been some overlap and interaction. Strauss's views on Machiavelli were scholarly and nuanced, not a wholesale endorsement of "The Prince". (In fact, Strauss's favorite book on Machiavelli is "Discourses on Livy", in praise of republics). Cheney and Rumsfeld have never been considered neocons, they are Republican internationalists. And so on......" This is the least important part of the post you are criticizing.

To: Neocon who wrote (113318)	8/29/2003 12:15:20 PM
From: MSI	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Irving Kristol, who was, briefly, in college, ceased any adherence to Trotsky while in the Army, about 50 years ago Its better to watch what people do, rather than vaguely surmising. The question is whether people support the Constitution and Bill of Rights, or not. Secret gov't and world domination is in neither. Cheney and Rumsfeld have never been considered neocons That's a joke, obviously. Next you'll be telling me Brzinzki's a Constitutionalist. . Strauss's views on Machiavelli were scholarly and nuanced More humor. Destruction of the Constitution and Bill of Rights is unacceptable, no matter how 'scholarly and nuanced'. If you wish to praise the republics don't advocate secret government by the elite. That's a bit too, er, 'nuanced'.