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To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (159147)8/29/2003 5:05:25 PM
From: Oeconomicus  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 164684
 
I have no clue why you would want to argue something so obvious with me.

It may be obvious to you, but only because you decided
that's what you wanted to believe, not because it's
supported by the facts. Here are the figures for employment
in the types of jobs you seem convinced are disappearing
rapidly. Note there's actually been a small gain.

Occupation July-02 July-03
Computer and mathematical occupations 3,217 3,036
Architecture and engineering occupations 2,631 2,837
Total 5,848 5,873
Source: BLS, Table A-19, July 2003

As for the unemployed, here are the numbers and rates for
those same occupations:

Occupation July-02 July-03
Computer and mathematical occupations 148, 4.4% 181, 5.6%
Architecture and engineering occupations 128, 4.6% 128, 4.3%
Total 276, 4.5% 309, 5.0%
Source: BLS, Table A-29, July 2003

But thanks for the link to the i triple-e guy's testimony.
I see much of the "evidence" of the flood of jobs overseas
is Forrester projections. Aren't they the same people cited
by analysts, VCs, entrepreneurs and hopeful investors as
proof of the practically unlimited potential of various now-
defunct dotcoms? ;-)

The only factual data in the testimony is anecdotal
evidence from a handful of large companies and selected
country data on science and engineering degree recipients.
In other words, they're only predicting the flood - they
have no hard evidence it is happening to any problematic
degree. The i triple-e is lobbying for protectionist
barriers in anticipation of foreign competition for
engineering jobs. It doesn't surprise me, but self-
interested warnings are not the same thing as facts and
don't make your case. Nor do they make erecting such
barriers a good idea.