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To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (113424)	8/30/2003 10:39:30 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

You're deluded in thinking that the Communists and Islamists have no good ideas. I see you didn't give any examples of the Islamists good ideas. When you figure out what they are, please post them. Now then as to the communist good idea of land reform - it was a failed experiment which cost the lives of tens of millions of people in Russia, China, VN, NK, Cambodia, and other countries. Here is something from a link on N VNese land reform. (The death toll was much higher for the Russian and Chinese land reforms -in the tens of millions). Canh estimated that the death toll in the Land Reform could reach to the number 200,000 which can be distributed as follows : - 100,000 people killed in phases of the Land Reform before 1955, excluding about 40,000 put in re-education camps. For the latter, they were brought to mountainous areas where malaria and other contagious diseases killed them abundantly. After release, they became invalid and maltreated by other North Vietnamese (A Drop in the Ocean, p.362). - 100,000 others killed in the 5th phase which, in the summer 1956, was called "the General Offensive Dien Bien Phu" (DDo+.t to^?ng co^ng ki'ch DDie^.n Bie^n Phu?), not including tens of thousand rich and middle peasants in re-education camps. vietpage.com Finally, the peasants didn't end up owning land in any communist country. After taking advantage of the class of landless peasants in order to succeed in this strategic period which was to knock down the class of landowners, Viet communists slowly appropriated all properties of middle peasants (trung no^ng; having below 3 Viet acres) and then of landless peasants through a policy of nationalization of all lands (co^ng hu+~u ho'a toa`n bo^. ruo^.ng dda^'t vu+o+`n ao).