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Pastimes : Neocon's Seminar Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: TigerPaw who wrote (864)	9/1/2003 3:52:32 PM
From: MSI	Respond to of 1112

That is just bitterness, not a political philosophy LOL! The sad truth is even simpler. As much as they try to disguise it, they are all on the take. The loudest are the most parasitic. Read the below, and laugh, as you realize the sole income for said author is (a)pentagon for his significant other and (b)a puppy-dog piece for Mr. Kristol's propaganda mag, who is therefore his hero, and yet not a 'neoco', somehow. Once you follow the money, it becomes clear that Kristol & Co. are all pentagon parasites with endless variations of excuses, and all the ivory tower themes are swept away, and the simple truth is impossible to ignore. Bill Kristol has never claimed to be a neocon, but cannot elude the designation because of his father. Those first designated neocons, and many of the younger one's who followed, were on the Left, for longer or shorter as the case may be. Most started out as Norman Thomas socialists or New Deal Democrats, but there have always been variations. There are even some who picked up the appellation who are, in some sense, still on the Left, namely the Social Democrats, who were Schachtmanites, and took over that splinter party in the '80s. They voted to support Reagan's candidacy, on foreign policy grounds, leading to the creation, by Michael Harrington, of the Democratic Socialist Party, for those disaffected by the take-over. The Social Democrats remain a European style social democrat organization with respect to the welfare state. I myself worked in a local office of the McGovern campaign, and considered myself to be a syndicalist, philosophically. I came from a liberal Democratic background. Admittedly, I was moving Right by the end of college, but was still more a Cold War liberal than an out and out conservative for at least part of the '80s......... Another clue for both self-admitted and non-self-admitted neocons - they are always chickenhawks, afraid to go into battle, yet eager to send others to their deaths, with unlimited foggy notions as to why this is good. Bush is a great example -- last week's staged presentation (complete with paid "clappers" to generate applause lines designated in his script) to the American Legion included a reference to "what I learned from Vietnam". As a deserter who never flew after 1973 and broke military law that should have court-martialed him, he's now promoting lies for the weak-minded. And these same invent endless reasons why Dean is so popular, as the only candidate who even comes close to calling a spade a spade. I heard George Will say yesterday, "Dean is popular for a reason no one wants to talk about -- his campaign is fun!". What an idiot. There are numerous attempts at trivializing any non-Bush campaign, but as these idiots are finding out, they all backfire, just as another dummy tried to claim, "ya know, Dean's fund-raising is ACTUALLY FROM REPUBLICANS WHO WANT HIM AS THE CANDIDATE 'CAUSE HE'LL BE EASY TO BEAT!". Go ahead, spinmeisters and propagandists, encourage GOP fund-raising for Dean, GOP primary voting for Dean, "fun" in his campaign stops, and etc., and avoid telling the truth as long as you can.